Title: Playing AA in Cash Games Post by: RyG on September 10, 2005, 10:48:06 PM Really having problems playing AA and even KK in cash games, i generally re-raise if theres a raise preflop, then when the flop comes all rags and my opponent moves in on me i find it difficult to lay them down and put them on a set, particularly when they are raising from Early/Mid position....
Any advice on how to best go about playing these or is it just a tad unlucky they keep hitting there two outers? Cheers Title: Re: Playing AA in Cash Games Post by: mattrickl06 on September 10, 2005, 10:50:47 PM Really having problems playing AA in cash games, i generally re-raise if theres a raise preflop, then when the flop comes all rags and my opponent moves in on me i find it difficult to lay them down and put them on a set, particularly when they are raising from Early/Mid position.... Im not the type of person that cant lay down aces Any advice? Cheers You are just going through a bad patch mate, stick with the bullets they will serve you well in the long-run!! Title: Re: Playing AA in Cash Games Post by: Maroon on September 10, 2005, 10:52:59 PM Is this a limit game?
Title: Re: Playing AA in Cash Games Post by: RyG on September 10, 2005, 10:53:29 PM Sorry NL
Title: Re: Playing AA in Cash Games Post by: mattrickl06 on September 10, 2005, 10:57:06 PM Sorry NL You have gotta play the bullets, it all comes around in phases. Next week you will be telling us how you won 3 tournies with AA in the hole ;) ;) Title: Re: Playing AA in Cash Games Post by: Maroon on September 10, 2005, 11:16:11 PM I suppose it depends on the relative stacks but I'd probably move all in pre flop to drive out the drawers and isolate the raiser. You can't be behind at this stage so now's the time to play it. As you say after the flop you don't know where you are unless another ace hits. I say win small with 'em preflop rather than lose big with 'em post flop.
I'm no expert so it'll be interesting to hear other views on this. Title: Re: Playing AA in Cash Games Post by: mattrickl06 on September 10, 2005, 11:24:03 PM I suppose it depends on the relative stacks but I'd probably move all in pre flop to drive out the drawers and isolate the raiser. You can't be behind at this stage so now's the time to play it. As you say after the flop you don't know where you are unless another ace hits. I say win small with 'em preflop rather than lose big with 'em post flop. I'm no expert so it'll be interesting to hear other views on this. Agree 100% Title: Re: Playing AA in Cash Games Post by: The Baron on September 11, 2005, 08:41:09 PM Personally I'm A LOT more inclined to release AA post flop in a cash game than I would be in a tourney.
Title: Re: Playing AA in Cash Games Post by: snoopy1239 on September 11, 2005, 08:51:44 PM If you've reraised a decent amount preflop, he's called, and then gone all-in on the flop, it will be profitable to call in the long-run. Most of the time they have AK, QQ, JJ, TT. Soemtimes they may have outdrawn you, but the former crops up more.
The difficulty I find is when you've raise, and got one caller, raised the flop and then been reraised. Eek. How much do people bet on the flop in these situations? Title: Re: Playing AA in Cash Games Post by: The Baron on September 11, 2005, 09:06:30 PM I try to keep the bet size healthy post flop, ie nearly pot sized. If I get a flat call or reraise I put the barkes on a little (if I'm still deep stacked by this point). Especially with a flop where all 3 cards are mid-high. (8 - K)
I think there are better spots to put your money in with than AA after a semi-dangerous flop. Title: Re: Playing AA in Cash Games Post by: snoopy1239 on September 11, 2005, 09:42:55 PM If you pot raise, say $20, a rag flop with your aces and they go all-in for a big chunk, say, $100. Do u call or put them on a set and release the bullets?
Title: Re: Playing AA in Cash Games Post by: snoopy1239 on September 11, 2005, 09:43:40 PM I only seem to profit from aces preflop when I get some muppet all-in.
Title: Re: Playing AA in Cash Games Post by: The Baron on September 11, 2005, 09:55:05 PM It depends. If the flop is K 4 2 unsuited I would call only really afraid of KK but more reasonably expecting AK/KQ.
If the flop is 10d Jh 8d I would be less likely to call for obvious reasons. There could be any trips, many draws, the straight is possible (although unlikely) and even two pair is possible. You can also be facing nasty stuff like J9, 109, 7d8d, KdQd. In short - all sorts. Perhaps saving the $80 for a better spot is wiser here? For me it really goes on the flop 1st then the player/type of player. If it was, for arguments sake, the 1st hand I sat down on and I didn't know the player at all, I would just have to go by the flop and make a judgement call. Title: Re: Playing AA in Cash Games Post by: The Baron on September 11, 2005, 09:58:39 PM If you pot raise, say $20, a rag flop with your aces and they go all-in for a big chunk, say, $100. Do u call or put them on a set and release the bullets? Just realised you said "rag flop" - I would call hoping they also had an overpair. If there was a caller in between your bet and the reraise I might lay it down. Title: Re: Playing AA in Cash Games Post by: Maroon on September 12, 2005, 12:11:43 AM I think by giving them the lead pre flop you just don't know where you are on the flop. I would want to take, and keep, the lead pre flop even if that meant all in.
What size of stacks and % of stack raise are we talking about here? Title: Re: Playing AA in Cash Games Post by: The Baron on September 12, 2005, 12:23:54 AM My response was to Snoop's scenario.
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