Title: Two pair, tough decision Post by: TightEnd on November 24, 2006, 05:25:24 AM £3-3 blinds PLHE, live
Aggressive lairy game You are on button with Qs 9d You have £385 In front of you Live straddles to £6 and £12, two callers, you flat call on button Big blind raises another £20, called in three spots before it comes back to you You call, pot odds dictate. Flop 7c Qh Ac It's checked to you, think about having a stab at it but wonder if BB pre flop raiser was looking to check raise, think better of it turn 9h giving you two pair £160 in pot UTG+1 who had live straddled bets the pot. Aggressive, loose, very wealthy. Cut off raises all in, just covers you. Cut off is Colonel Booder. Would have happily pushed myself versus UTG+1, now I'm in the tank, Your thoughts please.... call? fold? Title: Re: Two pair, tough decision Post by: Ironside on November 24, 2006, 05:29:22 AM all in
Title: Re: Two pair, tough decision Post by: Newmanseye on November 24, 2006, 05:36:47 AM To come out firing on the turn would indicate a strong draw to me, I doubt the ace is out there as someone would have stuck in a chunky bet, My guess is you are ahead, I would call and reload if i were wrong.
Title: Re: Two pair, tough decision Post by: Ironside on November 24, 2006, 05:39:11 AM on the other hand i wouldnt be playing in this game as its way above my bankroll restrictions so i would be playing scared so i would take the 365 left to the bar and get pissed with a trip to a karoke bar
Title: Re: Two pair, tough decision Post by: The_Diamond on November 24, 2006, 06:33:00 AM preflop preflop preflop !!!!!!!!
Title: Re: Two pair, tough decision Post by: boldie on November 24, 2006, 09:18:19 AM I reckon Cut Off is slowplaying something here. (up untill he gets what he wants by UTG+1 betting the pot)
I don't know booder, never played with him, but I take him for a decent player. I reckon he's atleast got the ace and probably two pair. AQ, A9 something like that (maybe even trips?) so I guess I would have to lay it down...having said that I don't know if I could. From just reading the HA I would say it's a fold..but at the table I might very well call this (better view of the players and all that, especially Booder). Title: Re: Two pair, tough decision Post by: totalise on November 24, 2006, 09:57:35 AM preflop is pretty gross... turn is a pretty clear fold if booder is any good
Title: Re: Two pair, tough decision Post by: Highstack on November 24, 2006, 12:06:29 PM Standard pass everytime. You have 2 pair and it doesn't even include top. If you want to go broke here good luck to you, but there will be much better spots.
That said, if you know the game is playing fast and loose and you are not prepared to have a gamble with this, then why enter the pot? Good starting cards can not be underestimated in a game like this. You have position, but no idea where you are and have already posted £32 into the pot with Q9o! Title: Re: Two pair, tough decision Post by: TightEnd on November 24, 2006, 01:04:17 PM good starting cards are a nightmare in a game like this!!!
hence Q9 offsuit in position looking to flop something big. It's checked round and then I hit a hand on the turn and caused myself problems I passed, putting booder on a set UTG+1 had a non nut club flush draw Booder had 97 for smaller two pair I was ahead I wasn't after the 7 on the river though to house up Booder, incidentally. Title: Re: Two pair, tough decision Post by: Highstack on November 24, 2006, 02:05:02 PM good starting cards are a nightmare in a game like this!!! How exactly????? You are in position and if your post-flop play is good enough not to get married to a hand then it is a standard easy formula for success in these type of games. Calling raises with no idea where you are is one of the worst plays in poker imo. Title: Re: Two pair, tough decision Post by: TightEnd on November 24, 2006, 02:15:09 PM sigh
merely because of the frequency of their being cracked thats all Title: Re: Two pair, tough decision Post by: Highstack on November 24, 2006, 02:32:31 PM Sure they get cracked, but you would have less opponents as you would be bringing it in for a raise.
£32 entered into a pot 'hoping to flop smething big' and only £353 back. 10/1 is the sort of implied odds I might like with a small pair against an opponent who I know can't lay down an overpair if I flop a set, not cold calling speculative bets and hoping to get lucky. Sorry, but I don't think I can be convinced here. Title: Re: Two pair, tough decision Post by: TightEnd on November 24, 2006, 02:35:08 PM No problem, it was certainly a peculiar game.
Title: Re: Two pair, tough decision Post by: Newmanseye on November 24, 2006, 05:45:08 PM To come out firing on the turn would indicate a strong draw to me, I doubt the ace is out there as someone would have stuck in a chunky bet, My guess is you are ahead, I would call and reload if i were wrong. Damn, I'm good, Nasty river though. Title: Re: Two pair, tough decision Post by: booder on November 28, 2006, 11:36:31 AM Damn, I'm good, Nasty river though. au contraire monsieur billyfish.........excellent river. knew i was in front of original raiser , tighty was the only player i was worried about and he cant call without at least top two pair....................SHIP IT. |