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Title: would you reraise on the river if you were my oppo? Post by: Ironside on September 12, 2005, 08:55:57 PM Game #878223154: Texas Hold'em No Limit (50/100) - 2005/09/12 - 20:46:33 (UK)
Table "£15K_MON 1042683 - 19" Seat 4 is the button. Seat 1: Long121 (1427.50 in chips) Seat 2: lee147 (2685 in chips) Seat 3: mortimer (1325 in chips) Seat 4: ironside (4965 in chips) Seat 5: doylem (1930 in chips) Seat 6: Stua08115 (4580 in chips) Seat 7: MAINEROAD (2085 in chips) Seat 8: Davecool9 (1820 in chips) Seat 9: salisbury (3287.50 in chips) Seat 10: bertdunk (1350 in chips) doylem: posts small blind 50 Stua08115: posts big blind 100 ----- HOLE CARDS ----- dealt to ironside [As Ks] MAINEROAD: folds Davecool9: calls 100 salisbury: folds bertdunk: folds Long121: folds lee147: folds mortimer: folds ironside: raises to 475 doylem: folds Stua08115: calls 375 Davecool9: calls 375 ----- FLOP ----- [7c 4h 7h] Stua08115: checks Davecool9: bets 200 ironside: raises to 1750 Stua08115: calls 1750 Davecool9: folds ----- TURN ----- [7c 4h 7h][8s] Stua08115: checks ironside: checks ----- RIVER ----- [7c 4h 7h 8s][5c] Stua08115: checks ironside: bets 1475 Stua08115: calls 1475 ----- SHOW DOWN ----- ironside: shows [As Ks] (A Pair of Sevens, Ace high) Stua08115: shows [7d Ah] (Three of a kind, Sevens, Ace high) Stua08115 collected 8125 from Main pot ok my thinking on this hand on the river he was on a busted flush draw so i tried to represent a big pair he calls i expect to see his pair but he flopped trips and didnt reraise me on the river would anyone else flat call here? Title: Re: would you reraise on the river if you were my oppo? Post by: snoopy1239 on September 12, 2005, 08:57:19 PM I think he should have reraised all-in on the flop with his 7s.
:-X Title: Re: would you reraise on the river if you were my oppo? Post by: Colchester Kev on September 12, 2005, 08:57:59 PM when Harry comes to give you lessons, ask him to spend some time going over " HOW TO PLAY AK" :)
Title: Re: would you reraise on the river if you were my oppo? Post by: Ironside on September 12, 2005, 08:58:43 PM i dont know snoopy he got more out of this by calling and check checking but if i had a big pair a check raise on river would of gotten paid
Title: Re: would you reraise on the river if you were my oppo? Post by: dan on September 12, 2005, 08:59:32 PM i wouldnt reraise the river because of the straight and possible full house i would raise the flop or turn
Title: Re: would you reraise on the river if you were my oppo? Post by: jammer on September 12, 2005, 09:00:37 PM if you thought he had a busted flush draw iron - that would imply that you thought your AK was ahead - why bet on the river m8? is he not only gonna call if your beat?
Title: Re: would you reraise on the river if you were my oppo? Post by: Ironside on September 12, 2005, 09:01:36 PM dan straight i know i am loose but this early in a comp i aint raising with 66 A6 or any other hand that contains a 6 when i have 2x average stack and am in a middle postion with an early limper
Title: Re: would you reraise on the river if you were my oppo? Post by: ifm on September 12, 2005, 09:02:05 PM OMG, are you mad?
he calls a huge bet on the flop and you think you're ahead? LOL Title: Re: would you reraise on the river if you were my oppo? Post by: Colchester Kev on September 12, 2005, 09:02:29 PM Sense from Jammer, you are guilty of massively overplaying AK again .. END OF .
Title: Re: would you reraise on the river if you were my oppo? Post by: snoopy1239 on September 12, 2005, 09:03:11 PM i dont know snoopy he got more out of this by calling and check checking but if i had a big pair a check raise on river would of gotten paid It was a reference to a similar thread that went over every1's head. This hand is very reminissent of all that malarchy. AK v 7s. :o :o :o Anyhow, on a serious note, I wouldn't reraise. I think the chance that he may be payed off by an overpair doesn't outwiegh the risk of losing to a straight. Title: Re: would you reraise on the river if you were my oppo? Post by: snoopy1239 on September 12, 2005, 09:04:18 PM dan straight i know i am loose but this early in a comp i aint raising with 66 A6 or any other hand that contains a 6 when i have 2x average stack and am in a middle postion with an early limper They don't know that tho. Title: Re: would you reraise on the river if you were my oppo? Post by: Ironside on September 12, 2005, 09:05:32 PM if you thought he had a busted flush draw iron - that would imply that you thought your AK was ahead - why bet on the river m8? is he not only gonna call if your beat? if he has AKh he could fold to a river bet so instead of spliting i win also a hand like 88-JJ are foldable yes i think the check on river would have been better idea and i cannot serious think anyone would have me on a 6 there if they do i need to tighten up my image but dont worry unlike colchester kev after 1 bad play i dont bust out next hand but surely with A7 and trips you cant think you beat Title: Re: would you reraise on the river if you were my oppo? Post by: Ironside on September 12, 2005, 09:06:07 PM dan straight i know i am loose but this early in a comp i aint raising with 66 A6 or any other hand that contains a 6 when i have 2x average stack and am in a middle postion with an early limper They don't know that tho. the worst hand i had shown down to that point was a pair of tens and all my winning hands were shown Title: Re: would you reraise on the river if you were my oppo? Post by: Colchester Kev on September 12, 2005, 09:07:30 PM I didnt make a bad play, i got unlucky with my KQ ... you made a BAD PLAY, but you are too f'ing stubborn to admit it :)
Title: Re: would you reraise on the river if you were my oppo? Post by: Ironside on September 12, 2005, 09:08:33 PM though i have just busted when i took my QQ up against AQo which hit an ace on turn
Title: Re: would you reraise on the river if you were my oppo? Post by: Ironside on September 12, 2005, 09:10:40 PM I didnt make a bad play, i got unlucky with my KQ ... you made a BAD PLAY, but you are too f'ing stubborn to admit it :) no i made a bad read on situation and i am still undecided if i would make the river bet again but i sure know with trips top kicker i would be attepmting to get more chips of the guy thats just raised into me Title: Re: would you reraise on the river if you were my oppo? Post by: Colchester Kev on September 12, 2005, 09:11:59 PM you gonna play the 10k Iron ?
Title: Re: would you reraise on the river if you were my oppo? Post by: dan on September 12, 2005, 09:13:29 PM ironside, there seems to be alot of bad players on crypto that raise with anything like A6 im not saying for 1 minuite that you are one of them but once a 4578 is on the board i would be worried. i personally would of reraised the turn because after the turn came out there was al sorts of straight/ flush posabilites.
Title: Re: would you reraise on the river if you were my oppo? Post by: Ironside on September 12, 2005, 09:13:42 PM well i am on the list
just hoping i find a table of players not willing to go reraise with trips Title: Re: would you reraise on the river if you were my oppo? Post by: dan on September 12, 2005, 09:14:54 PM im having a crack at the 10k too
Title: Re: would you reraise on the river if you were my oppo? Post by: Ironside on September 12, 2005, 09:15:33 PM ironside, there seems to be alot of bad players on crypto that raise with anything like A6 im not saying for 1 minuite that you are one of them but once a 4578 is on the board i would be worried. i personally would of reraised the turn because after the turn came out there was al sorts of straight/ flush posabilites. dan i personally think the trap check on turn and river were perfect only thing i question is the calling rather than reraising the river if people actually put me on a 6 in that sistuation i would love to be on there table Title: Re: would you reraise on the river if you were my oppo? Post by: Ironside on September 12, 2005, 09:26:00 PM playing the £40 tourny just now i am sure the rest of the players think its a freeroll
Title: Re: would you reraise on the river if you were my oppo? Post by: Ironside on September 12, 2005, 09:37:56 PM is chubbs mr nowab
Title: Re: would you reraise on the river if you were my oppo? Post by: snoopy1239 on September 12, 2005, 09:45:35 PM How often will he get paid if he reraises?
Title: Re: would you reraise on the river if you were my oppo? Post by: Ironside on September 12, 2005, 09:53:00 PM everytime i have a bigger hand than AK so thats about 4times out of 5
Title: Re: would you reraise on the river if you were my oppo? Post by: Colchester Kev on September 12, 2005, 10:00:08 PM no , it aint simon
Title: Re: would you reraise on the river if you were my oppo? Post by: The Baron on September 13, 2005, 12:45:06 PM I would flat call on the river also.
Title: Re: would you reraise on the river if you were my oppo? Post by: Royal Flush on September 13, 2005, 01:34:50 PM You thought he had a flush draw, so you make a big bet??? Surely you are ahead of a busted flush draw!?!?!?!?!?
As others have said, stop overplaying AK!!! Title: Re: would you reraise on the river if you were my oppo? Post by: Gamblor21 on September 13, 2005, 01:58:43 PM Ironside i will request a ban of you unless the next ak hand you post, HAS BEEN PLAYED WELL!!!!
Now come on your a champion stop playing like a muppet... if i've not re-raised u on the turn with his hand i only flat call the river as i must be scared of what ever had you have! Ian Title: Re: would you reraise on the river if you were my oppo? Post by: Ironside on September 13, 2005, 02:51:14 PM listen i know i havent played the AK well on the river but if you guys are only check calling on the river with A7 then you are wasting a great oppotunity to make some realy cash
there is only 4 or 5 hands i would play the way i played the AK and the only hands i wouldnt have called a reraise with on river is AK and maybe JJ (if i raised preflop with the jacks i am more likely to limp) if you guys think i am the type of player that will raise in that postion with 66 or A6 or a 6 in my hand then i love my new image and if any player who has been on my table for more than 30 minutes think i would raise with a 6 in my hand with an utg limp and in the early deep money stage of a comp then i am getting the right image accross Title: Re: would you reraise on the river if you were my oppo? Post by: snoopy1239 on September 13, 2005, 02:55:05 PM easy tiger ;)
Title: Re: would you reraise on the river if you were my oppo? Post by: snoopy1239 on September 13, 2005, 03:18:39 PM You could also have had a full house.
Title: Re: would you reraise on the river if you were my oppo? Post by: Ironside on September 13, 2005, 11:48:48 PM kev that was a postional play if you cant understand that you better ask chubby for lesson 2 in how to play NLHE
only 3 hands an all in call raiser from UTG can have and unless you want to call off all your chips in a coin flip at best then its not advisable to call with TT just glad i won a flip for once Title: Re: would you reraise on the river if you were my oppo? Post by: snoopy1239 on September 14, 2005, 01:24:00 PM Possible winning hands = 44, 55, 66, 88, A6.
Possible calling hands = AA, KK (personally, I wouldn't call with less than trips) In an online tournament it wouldn't surprise me if the raise had one of the above. Is it worth the risk to get a few more chips? |