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Title: Two hands...
Post by: NoflopsHomer on December 08, 2006, 12:02:56 AM
Seat 1: Paisano (1530 in chips)
Seat 2: Needers76 (1395 in chips)
Seat 3: vivekaa (1975 in chips)
Seat 4: Fatnav (4730 in chips)
Seat 5: Foaming_h (2010 in chips)
Seat 6: Docthe (1170 in chips)
Paisano: posts small blind 15
Needers76: posts big blind 30
----- HOLE CARDS -----
dealt to Foaming_h [As 5s]
vivekaa: folds
Fatnav: calls 30
Foaming_h: calls 30
Docthe: calls 30
Paisano: calls 15
Needers76: checks
----- FLOP ----- [3h 4d 2c]
Paisano: checks
Needers76: bets 30
Fatnav: raises to 90
Foaming_h: raises to 210
Docthe: raises to 1140 and is all-in
Paisano: folds
Needers76: calls 1110
Fatnav: calls 1050

Can I pass here?

2nd one, dewd previously donked 2/3rds of his stack to me, he had min-raised with 44 and I had hit two pair on the flop with Q8 from the BB, he min c/raised me on the flop and tried to bluff the turn.

Seat 1: pistolpate03 (735 in chips)
Seat 2: 3silver3 (2175 in chips)
Seat 3: dewdstud (1965 in chips)
Seat 4: dpavsek (1200 in chips)
Seat 5: Foaming_H (2350 in chips)
Seat 6: skats-1 (1040 in chips)
Seat 7: goldman187 (1825 in chips)
Seat 8: Tooco19 (1655 in chips)
Seat 9: OHASB1987 (555 in chips) is sitting out
Foaming_H: posts small blind 15
skats-1: posts big blind 30
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to Foaming_H [6s 8s]
goldman187: folds
Tooco19: folds
OHASB1987: folds
pistolpate03: folds
3silver3: folds
dewdstud: raises 30 to 60
dpavsek: calls 60
Foaming_H: calls 45
skats-1: calls 30
*** FLOP *** [Qs Ad 7s]
Foaming_H: checks
skats-1: checks
dewdstud: checks
dpavsek: checks
*** TURN *** [Qs Ad 7s] [2s]
Foaming_H: bets 120
skats-1: folds
dewdstud: calls 120
dpavsek: folds
*** RIVER *** [Qs Ad 7s 2s] [8c]
Foaming_H: bets 300
dewdstud: raises 540 to 840
Foaming_H: calls 540
*** SHOW DOWN ***
dewdstud: shows [2h 2d] (three of a kind, Deuces)
Foaming_H: shows [6s 8s] (a flush, Queen high)
Foaming_H collected 2160 from pot

Should I have re-raised on the river?


Title: Re: Two hands...
Post by: Wardonkey on December 08, 2006, 12:09:04 AM
No and no..


Title: Re: Two hands...
Post by: NoflopsHomer on December 08, 2006, 12:13:33 AM
No and no..

Good, one out for a split....

Foaming_h: raises to 1980 and is all-in
Needers76: is all-in 225
Fatnav: calls 840
----- TURN ----- [3h 4d 2c]
----- RIVER ----- [3h 4d 2c Td][9s]
----- SHOW DOWN -----
Foaming_h: shows [As 5s] (A Straight, Five high)
Docthe: shows [6c 6d] (A Pair of Sixes, Ten high)
Needers76: shows [4c 3c] (Two Pairs, Fours and Threes, Ten high)
Fatnav: shows [5d 6h] (A Straight, Six high)


Title: Re: Two hands...
Post by: boldie on December 08, 2006, 09:26:05 AM
No and no..

why not reraise on the river in the last example? I would 99% of the time take my flush to be good here. I would stick them in.

In the first example..no you can't pass.


Title: Re: Two hands...
Post by: Highstack on December 08, 2006, 09:34:00 AM
It is advocated that you should play the same game whatever the stakes and be profitable, but I think the first one it can make a huge difference. In hand 1 you will find draws and overpairs with a possible set overcalling in a £10 stt. At higher stakes you still get complete donks, but an overcall should usually represent a strong hand. You are ahead of a set (although tehy have 10 outs and two streets to improve ahead of you) and that is the minimum you should expect. 56 Would not be an unlikely probability.

The second one, I don't raise the river for value. You are unlikely to get called unless you are beat.


Title: Re: Two hands...
Post by: Highstack on December 08, 2006, 09:36:12 AM
*btw, I still call in hand 1, I just think that there is a higher probability of a big hand. If I'm beat, dust myself down and get on with the next one. So many pump with so much less, that there is just too much value in the pot to let a big hand go here.


Title: Re: Two hands...
Post by: Royal Flush on December 08, 2006, 04:56:56 PM
It is advocated that you should play the same game whatever the stakes

A sure fire recipe to bankruptcy


Title: Re: Two hands...
Post by: Highstack on December 08, 2006, 05:05:00 PM
Totally agree mate, as I went on to say - but that is what the books try to tell us!


Title: Re: Two hands...
Post by: Bongo on December 08, 2006, 05:58:26 PM
Surely you don't change your game because of the stakes but because of the players?


Title: Re: Two hands...
Post by: Royal Flush on December 08, 2006, 06:07:44 PM
Surely you don't change your game because of the stakes but because of the players?

And the players are dependant on the stakes