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Title: is this collusion? Post by: ju5tin on December 08, 2006, 12:32:28 PM I was playing a $100 sng earlier today, on tribeca, when I noticed some odd plays between two players. In one hand, a player passes a 2200 pot for a 270 chip raise. Then, a few hands later, the same player passed a 4400 pot for 370 chip raise.
Is this a case of "chip passing" to give the 2 players and edge over the other four? In any case, both players go out before the money, however, I did make a comment on the table after the 2nd hand. Hands: Single-Table Tournament Table Name Hand ID Game Stakes $100 - NL - 9 Seats 13930914-36 Holdem No Limit 100/200 [Dec 8 11:11:30] : Hand Start. [Dec 8 11:11:30] : Seat 1 : ironmike1 has $4,435 [Dec 8 11:11:30] : Seat 2 : slo roll has $3,560 [Dec 8 11:11:30] : Seat 3 : Mstadutd has $2,450 [Dec 8 11:11:30] : Seat 4 : DandyD has $1,990 [Dec 8 11:11:30] : Seat 7 : wilpay has $1,270 [Dec 8 11:11:30] : Seat 9 : ravne has $4,295 [Dec 8 11:11:30] : wilpay is the dealer. [Dec 8 11:11:30] : ravne posted small blind. [Dec 8 11:11:30] : ironmike1 posted big blind. [Dec 8 11:11:30] : Game [36] started with 6 players. [Dec 8 11:11:30] : Dealing Hole Cards. [Dec 8 11:11:30] : Seat 2 : slo roll has 3c Ac [Dec 8 11:11:32] : slo roll folded. [Dec 8 11:11:34] : Mstadutd folded. [Dec 8 11:11:35] : DandyD folded. [Dec 8 11:11:36] : Stakes: 100/200 Current level: 4 Next level in: 5 min. [Dec 8 11:11:39] : wilpay called 200 [Dec 8 11:11:42] : ravne called 100 [Dec 8 11:11:45] : ironmike1 checked. [Dec 8 11:11:45] : Dealing flop. [Dec 8 11:11:45] : Board cards [Jd 5h Jh] [Dec 8 11:11:52] : ravne bet 800 [Dec 8 11:11:55] : ironmike1 folded. [Dec 8 11:11:56] : Stakes: 100/200 Current level: 4 Next level in: 5 min. [Dec 8 11:11:59] : wilpay called 800 and raised 270 and is All-in [Dec 8 11:11:59] : Under-Raise rules are now in effect. [Dec 8 11:12:01] : ravne folded. [Dec 8 11:12:02] : wilpay wins 2,200 as the last player standing [Dec 8 11:12:05] : Hand is over. [Dec 8 11:12:05] : Stakes: 100/200 Current level: 4 Next level in: 5 min. Single-Table Tournament Table Name Hand ID Game Stakes $100 - NL - 9 Seats 13930914-41 Holdem No Limit 100/200 [Dec 8 11:15:20] : Hand Start. [Dec 8 11:15:20] : Seat 1 : ironmike1 has $2,835 [Dec 8 11:15:20] : Seat 2 : slo roll has $3,760 [Dec 8 11:15:20] : Seat 3 : Mstadutd has $2,150 [Dec 8 11:15:20] : Seat 4 : DandyD has $1,490 [Dec 8 11:15:20] : Seat 7 : wilpay has $2,570 [Dec 8 11:15:20] : Seat 9 : ravne has $5,195 [Dec 8 11:15:20] : DandyD is the dealer. [Dec 8 11:15:20] : wilpay posted small blind. [Dec 8 11:15:20] : ravne posted big blind. [Dec 8 11:15:20] : Game [41] started with 6 players. [Dec 8 11:15:20] : Dealing Hole Cards. [Dec 8 11:15:20] : Seat 2 : slo roll has 5h Jd [Dec 8 11:15:25] : ironmike1 folded. [Dec 8 11:15:25] : slo roll folded. [Dec 8 11:15:27] : Mstadutd folded. [Dec 8 11:15:27] : DandyD folded. [Dec 8 11:15:31] : wilpay called 100 [Dec 8 11:15:34] : ravne checked. [Dec 8 11:15:34] : Dealing flop. [Dec 8 11:15:34] : Board cards [7c Qh 2d] [Dec 8 11:15:36] : Stakes: 100/200 Current level: 4 Next level in: 1 min. [Dec 8 11:15:40] : wilpay bet 400 [Dec 8 11:15:52] : ravne called 400 [Dec 8 11:15:52] : Dealing turn. [Dec 8 11:15:52] : Board cards [7c Qh 2d Jh] [Dec 8 11:15:56] : Stakes: 100/200 Current level: 4 Next level in: 1 min. [Dec 8 11:16:03] : wilpay checked. [Dec 8 11:16:09] : ravne bet 1,600 [Dec 8 11:16:16] : Stakes: 100/200 Current level: 4 Next level in: 1 min. [Dec 8 11:16:28] : wilpay called 1,600 and raised 370 and is All-in [Dec 8 11:16:28] : Under-Raise rules are now in effect. [Dec 8 11:16:35] : ravne folded. [Dec 8 11:16:36] : wilpay wins 4,400 as the last player standing [Dec 8 11:16:38] : Hand is over. [Dec 8 11:16:38] : Stakes: 100/200 Current level: 5 Next level in: 8 min. [Dec 8 11:16:38] : Level up. New stakes : 150/300 [Dec 8 11:16:38] : Level up. New stakes : 150/300 [Dec 8 11:16:38] : Stakes: 150/300 Current level: 5 Next level in: 8 min. [Dec 8 11:16:40] : Stakes: 150/300 Current level: 5 Next level in: 8 min. Title: Re: is this collusion? Post by: Ginger on December 08, 2006, 12:34:53 PM Same players both times, looks dodgy to me.
Title: Re: is this collusion? Post by: TightEnd on December 08, 2006, 12:36:13 PM did you send the hand histories and chat logs to support to investigate?
p.s Well done on your win in the £200 Omaha in Luton on Wednesday Justin! What a result! didn't know you were an Omaha player, I do now!! Title: Re: is this collusion? Post by: boldie on December 08, 2006, 01:01:53 PM especially the second one looks really dodgy. I would pass it on to the poker site and see what they do.
Title: Re: is this collusion? Post by: thetank on December 08, 2006, 02:51:09 PM Sort it out, that s**t is bad.
Title: Re: is this collusion? Post by: ju5tin on December 08, 2006, 02:53:10 PM Yes I did report it.
Tyvm Rich, what a result indeed!. I Have played a bit online, even cashed in the FGR event last year, but it was the first time I played Omaha in a festival. The event also coincided with my birthday! Which was one of the reasons that I was playing. Title: Re: is this collusion? Post by: thetank on December 08, 2006, 02:55:28 PM In any case, both players go out before the money Both of them, lololol, good! Maybe they're just bad players, but twice in one tourney, they need looking at. Title: Re: is this collusion? Post by: Poppet7 on December 08, 2006, 03:07:39 PM Glad you reported it.
Disgusting :( Title: Re: is this collusion? Post by: I, Zimbra on December 08, 2006, 06:08:24 PM p.s Well done on your win in the £200 Omaha in Luton on Wednesday Justin! What a result! didn't know you were an Omaha player, I do now!! You would if you played the BSQ League ;) wd slo! ;applause; Title: Re: is this collusion? Post by: Ironside on December 08, 2006, 09:05:39 PM if this was a 5 or 10 SnG i would maybe put it down to lack of knowledge but at 100 either you have found a nice whale in ravane or there was a littl chip dumping going on
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