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I have been trying to develop some kind of alarm system so that I can make some kind of attempt to fold even great-looking second best hands. I don't think I'll ever mind losing with set over set, but I'd love to be doing some kind of decent attempt at dropping second best flushes and 2 pair to trips. For a while if I was on the wrong side of it I put it down to bad luck and supposed that next time I'd be on the right side of it. My own personal horror stories have been cash games with Top 2 pair or a good set on the flop against someone's made straight. Looking back, all the information I needed was there. Is it possible to develop consistent disciplined folds?
It was (just) being on the right side of this train wreck that really got me thinking. Could you have folded your 4-s full here?
Everest Poker — Hand Details
Hand ID: 771451599
Table ID: -32588093
Play Mode: Real Money
Tournament Table: Tsogaka-4
Game Type: Hold'em
Blinds: 200/400
Stakes: 400/400
Currency: USD
Starting Date: 2006-11-23 GMT
Starting Time: 02:23:50 GMT



Seating Arrangement:

Eu_mesmo01 is at seat 1 with 5750.
slimfandango is at seat 2 with 14250.

Post Blinds:

The button is at seat 2.
slimfandango posts the small blind of 200.
Eu_mesmo01 posts the big blind of 400.

Deal Pocket Cards:

Eu_mesmo01: -- --
slimfandango: 9c Kc

Pre-flop:
slimfandango calls 200.
Eu_mesmo01 raises 800.
slimfandango calls 800.


Flop (4d Ks 8c):
Eu_mesmo01 checks.
slimfandango checks.


Turn (4d Ks 8c 9h):
Eu_mesmo01 checks.
slimfandango raises 400.
Eu_mesmo01 calls 400.


River (4d Ks 8c 9h Kh):
Eu_mesmo01 raises 4150.
slimfandango calls 4150.


Showdown:
Eu_mesmo01 shows 4s 4h.
Eu_mesmo01 has 4s 4h 4d Ks Kh: Full House
slimfandango shows 9c Kc.
slimfandango has 9c 9h Kc Ks Kh: Full House
Eu_mesmo01 is eliminated.


Pot Summary:
Total Pot: 11500
slimfandango wins 11500.
No Rake is taken for this hand.

no escape

This is a bit of an unfortunate hand - if you had played it stronger on the flop you would probably have got all the money in on the turn and then the river suckout would have made you eligible for a 50p donation to the bad beat fund.

As far as your river bet is concerned - does it get called by a worse hand?  Maybe it does get called by a bare 3 kings - it depends on your opponent.  If you bet 1000, does a hand you beat raise?  Once again maybe sometimes.  I don't think a good player calls the allin or raises a bet of 1000 with a hand you beat.  

Erm, tight paul won this hand.

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