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Title: Fold or call?
Post by: Horneris on December 12, 2006, 10:54:10 PM
PokerStars Game #7414811867: Tournament #37925191, $22+$1 Hold'em No Limit - Match Round I, Level IV (50/100) - 2006/12/12 - 17:46:44 (ET)
Table '37925191 1' 2-max Seat #1 is the button
Seat 1: Slowitz22 (1315 in chips)
Seat 2: Horneris (1685 in chips)
Slowitz22: posts small blind 50
Horneris: posts big blind 100
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to Horneris [4h Qs]
Slowitz22: calls 50
Horneris: checks
*** FLOP *** [4c 8c 4d]
Horneris: checks
Slowitz22: checks
*** TURN *** [4c 8c 4d] [5c]
Horneris: bets 200
Slowitz22: calls 200
*** RIVER *** [4c 8c 4d 5c] [Jd]
Horneris: bets 200
Slowitz22: raises 600 to 800

Horneris: ?????? Do we have to call here because of the strength or our hand. And we can't just assume he has the flush can we?

If i call and lose then ill have around 400 left.


Title: Re: Fold or call?
Post by: SupaMonkey on December 13, 2006, 02:17:36 PM
He either has a hand as good as yours or he is bluffing imo, so i would lay it down against an unknown.

Btw, the pot is 200 on the flop and there are only 3000 chips in play. Why don't you bet there?


Title: Re: Fold or call?
Post by: Horneris on December 13, 2006, 02:31:33 PM
To disguise my hand, and in the hope that he catches a high card on the turn to pair his??, giving him 2 pair but me trips.



Title: Re: Fold or call?
Post by: SupaMonkey on December 13, 2006, 02:37:46 PM
Do you think he believes you if you bet out on the flop here? I wouldn't expect him to and i would expect a bluff raise a lot of the time.


Title: Re: Fold or call?
Post by: boldie on December 13, 2006, 02:47:58 PM
Do you think he believes you if you bet out on the flop here? I wouldn't expect him to and i would expect a bluff raise a lot of the time.

I agree. I'd bet the flop. For some reason people never believe you leading out with the 4. he is more likely to take you for an 8 if you lead out here.


Title: Re: Fold or call?
Post by: doubleup on December 13, 2006, 02:57:24 PM
I would have thought he would have had a pop at the flop with a flush draw.  However, calling these river raises when you've bet the turn and river is usually a loser.  So I'm sighing and folding if my opponent is at all competent.