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Ok this was a debate some people may remember from THM from years ago:

If you were given the choice between knowing what the community cards are going to be or knowing what your opponent's hole cards are which would you choose and why?



P.S. the abbreviation P4C is banned in this thread as are "30%" and "70%"

easy: hole cards, could play perfect poker then.

seventy percent of the time i would like to know what the flop will be
thirty percent of the time i would like to know my opponents hole cards


there.........no mention of P4C      damn

Opponents hole cards.
You get to see the board anyway.

Opponants hole cards for me too.  Even knowing the board cards in advance, you can still lose. 

I think you would win more and look better knowing your opponents cards... but I would love to see those raggy flops make me full houses constantly!

You still need to hit, even if you can see the board. However, if you can see your opponent's hole cards, you can win the pot without making your hand, simply by knowing that they haven't made theirs.

OK if you are all going to take my hole cards I shall take the board and just go allin preflop whenever I am going to flop the nuts or close to it. If I go allin with say 36o/s are you going to call me? Wouldn't you be surprised when the board read 245JQ....If you are going to fold when I go allin preflop I will just go allin 90% of the hands I play then.

i am just playing devils advocate btw- I would normally want to see the other guys hole cards as well but there are flaws to both sides of the argument.

Hole cards everytime my YOOT!!!

Assuming that you are getting the information from dodgy channels. Also assuming there is some sort of greater moral imperative to justify your cheating in the game. (You're playing Genghis Khan and want to rob him of money which he may use to buy raging hordes or something.)

Which do you think would be the easiest to avoid detection, and get away with for the longest time?

I thought you were the only one who said community cards when we had this on THM, i may be wrong. You reasoned you could tell what people had anyway pretty much so would rather know what was coming.

If I was going to cheat I would choose not cheat against someone with raging hordes at their disposal.

TBH he is easy to beat, over aggressive......

had written quite a long post disagreeing with the donk til i realised it said hordes....................... :blonde:

Do your opponenets know you have access to the information?

If yes, I would choose to see the flop. If no, I would see my opponents cards. Because if they know I know their cards they will play radically differently.

Board cards for me.

There would be no fun if you knew exactly what your opponent had. No sense of gratification upon making a correct read.

When the only unknown is what cards are going to land, there's really nothing to do but crunch numbers every now and then, no intuition, no art at all left in the game.

You can win enough either way, so I don't think potential financial gain would be a factor. Both methods would probably give you a similar edge after you dull them down to avoid detection.

Most importantly, keep em coming back! Making sure they always get their money in "ahead" in the big pots. Then they think they are a better player, and will almost certainly return again and again with more hordes/cash.