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Title: Omaha Books Post by: maldini32 on December 20, 2006, 03:05:50 PM Does anyone know of any good omaha books, preferably cash games.
thanks Title: Re: Omaha Books Post by: Gryff on December 20, 2006, 03:10:49 PM Championship omaha covers Pot limit and limit as well as tournament and cash variants, as well as covering omaha eight or better.
Title: Re: Omaha Books Post by: Sheriff Fatman on December 20, 2006, 03:14:23 PM Omaha High - Rolf Slotboom's book is about the only decent specialist book on this game. Stuart Reuben's 'How good is your Pot-Limit Omaha?' is a multi-choice question format which I found difficult to work through.
Omaha Hi/Lo - more books available on this, the best of which is Sklansky/Malmuth's "Hi/Lo Split Poker for Advanced Players", which also covers Stud/8. NB It's aimed at limit cash games as this is the more popular variant of the game in the US. Also, Bob Ciaffone's 'Omaha Poker - The Action Game' is a great book, covering concepts in both games (rather than being an 'instructional' guide) and is well worth reading in addition to the ones above. Sheriff Title: Re: Omaha Books Post by: maldini32 on December 20, 2006, 03:17:09 PM cheers guys.
Title: Re: Omaha Books Post by: NoflopsHomer on December 20, 2006, 03:30:40 PM Byron Jacob's 'How good is your Pot-Limit Omaha?' I thought it was Stewart Reuben? In any event it's an book consisting of hands where he'll play something badly and win a large amount of money, then pat himself on the back. Other hands, if played 'correctly' receive comments like "You have done it again. Played just like me." or "Well done. I too made the perfect score. The difference is you achieved yours under laboratory conditions." I'm not a fan... ::) Title: Re: Omaha Books Post by: Sheriff Fatman on December 20, 2006, 03:44:57 PM You may be right - I think Jacobs wrote the limit hold'em version.
Title: Re: Omaha Books Post by: Tractor on December 20, 2006, 07:12:16 PM Byron Jacob's 'How good is your Pot-Limit Omaha?' I thought it was Stewart Reuben? In any event it's an book consisting of hands where he'll play something badly and win a large amount of money, then pat himself on the back. Other hands, if played 'correctly' receive comments like "You have done it again. Played just like me." or "Well done. I too made the perfect score. The difference is you achieved yours under laboratory conditions." I'm not a fan... ::) I have to agree with Floppy, poor book imo. Title: Re: Omaha Books Post by: Djinn on December 22, 2006, 04:10:05 AM I am not usually a big fan of poker books, but I have to say that Rolf Slotboom's book is pretty good. It's not meant to be a "you do what I do and the Rules will make you a winner" sort of thing (something which poker books might often be guilty of propagating), and despite its air of superiority does raise exactly the sort of questions which I find interesting, without being simplistically didactic. There are a lot of Example Hands in the second half, which are great for considering the game, surely a desirable thing. That on its own makes it a good purchase.
Title: Re: Omaha Books Post by: Rolf on December 27, 2006, 03:14:28 AM Thanks for the comments - I appreciate it.
As to other books besides my own: I have rated & reviewed all of them in the Books Section on my own site, not just complete books but also just chapters, as in SS/2 for instance. I don't think the Reuben book is as bad as is claimed here - even though I agree it has *many* drawbacks. But especially all PLO material by Ciaffone is well worth reading IMO, and there are also a few sites that offer - what I view to be - more than decent PLO information, plus: even free of charge. Merry Xmas to all, Rolf. Title: Re: Omaha Books Post by: MadYank on December 27, 2006, 04:11:30 AM I am not usually a big fan of poker books, but I have to say that Rolf Slotboom's book is pretty good. It's not meant to be a "you do what I do and the Rules will make you a winner" sort of thing (something which poker books might often be guilty of propagating), and despite its air of superiority does raise exactly the sort of questions which I find interesting, without being simplistically didactic. There are a lot of Example Hands in the second half, which are great for considering the game, surely a desirable thing. That on its own makes it a good purchase. Unfortuantely his advice partially applied has spewed an endless series of shortstacking, shotaking, fit/fold flop idiots on many major PLO sites. Title: Re: Omaha Books Post by: ifm on December 27, 2006, 05:24:01 AM I am not usually a big fan of poker books, but I have to say that Rolf Slotboom's book is pretty good. It's not meant to be a "you do what I do and the Rules will make you a winner" sort of thing (something which poker books might often be guilty of propagating), and despite its air of superiority does raise exactly the sort of questions which I find interesting, without being simplistically didactic. There are a lot of Example Hands in the second half, which are great for considering the game, surely a desirable thing. That on its own makes it a good purchase. Unfortuantely his advice partially applied has spewed an endless series of shortstacking, shotaking, fit/fold flop idiots on many major PLO sites. Is that necessarily a bad thing? Title: Re: Omaha Books Post by: snoopy1239 on December 27, 2006, 05:30:10 AM Thanks for the comments - I appreciate it. As to other books besides my own: I have rated & reviewed all of them in the Books Section on my own site, not just complete books but also just chapters, as in SS/2 for instance. I don't think the Reuben book is as bad as is claimed here - even though I agree it has *many* drawbacks. But especially all PLO material by Ciaffone is well worth reading IMO, and there are also a few sites that offer - what I view to be - more than decent PLO information, plus: even free of charge. Merry Xmas to all, Rolf. Hi Rolf! :hello: I have bought a copy and I recommend it to everyone. It makes an awesome doorstop. Strong, sturdy yet easy to move to a different door. ;nana; Just kidding, promise! I've only read the opening couple of chapters, but it reads differently to anything I've read before, so I'm looking forward to ploughing through it and seeing what Mr Slotboom has to say. Title: Re: Omaha Books Post by: MadYank on December 27, 2006, 06:46:21 AM I am not usually a big fan of poker books, but I have to say that Rolf Slotboom's book is pretty good. It's not meant to be a "you do what I do and the Rules will make you a winner" sort of thing (something which poker books might often be guilty of propagating), and despite its air of superiority does raise exactly the sort of questions which I find interesting, without being simplistically didactic. There are a lot of Example Hands in the second half, which are great for considering the game, surely a desirable thing. That on its own makes it a good purchase. Unfortuantely his advice partially applied has spewed an endless series of shortstacking, shotaking, fit/fold flop idiots on many major PLO sites. Is that necessarily a bad thing? Well I spose if you wanted to play poker it could be a bad thing. It has minimal effect upon me now as I play almost exclusively 6max so the shortstacking ROLF clone nits get chewed up pretty quick. In full ring though they destroy the integrity of the game. Title: Re: Omaha Books Post by: MadYank on December 27, 2006, 06:48:11 AM Quote I have bought a copy and I recommend it to everyone. It makes an awesome doorstop. Strong, sturdy yet easy to move to a different door. ;nana; QFT Title: Re: Omaha Books Post by: tikay on December 27, 2006, 03:42:15 PM I am not usually a big fan of poker books, but I have to say that Rolf Slotboom's book is pretty good. It's not meant to be a "you do what I do and the Rules will make you a winner" sort of thing (something which poker books might often be guilty of propagating), and despite its air of superiority does raise exactly the sort of questions which I find interesting, without being simplistically didactic. There are a lot of Example Hands in the second half, which are great for considering the game, surely a desirable thing. That on its own makes it a good purchase. Unfortuantely his advice partially applied has spewed an endless series of shortstacking, shotaking, fit/fold flop idiots on many major PLO sites. How can an American comment upon Omaha - they can't play the game! Title: Re: Omaha Books Post by: Sark79 on December 27, 2006, 05:30:40 PM Omaha High - Rolf Slotboom's book. I bought this today in Edinburgh. I had some vouchers for books and I looked at some of the hold'em books, but in the end felt most of the information given in them could be found on Blonde or online. I went for Rolf Slotboom's book because from what I have read in the past, he explains things very well and I want to learn this game during 2007.
Title: Re: Omaha Books Post by: MadYank on December 27, 2006, 11:25:55 PM I am not usually a big fan of poker books, but I have to say that Rolf Slotboom's book is pretty good. It's not meant to be a "you do what I do and the Rules will make you a winner" sort of thing (something which poker books might often be guilty of propagating), and despite its air of superiority does raise exactly the sort of questions which I find interesting, without being simplistically didactic. There are a lot of Example Hands in the second half, which are great for considering the game, surely a desirable thing. That on its own makes it a good purchase. Unfortuantely his advice partially applied has spewed an endless series of shortstacking, shotaking, fit/fold flop idiots on many major PLO sites. How can an American comment upon Omaha - they can't play the game! HU for ROLLLLLLZ PLO TK? MUHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA Title: Re: Omaha Books Post by: MadYank on December 27, 2006, 11:30:53 PM Let me clarify my ROLF's book position.
I agree with others that it is quite useful for those looking to initially learn the game. Once you have some experience playing it though and have reached a certain level of comfort, it really is a hindrence IMO. But, we all have our own styles and methods for different poker games, and ROLF's stye doesn't fit well into my metagame. PS It's certainly miles and miles better than any of that Cloutier/Mcovoy crap produced on any game. |