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Title: push or not?
Post by: ACE2M on December 29, 2006, 08:31:14 PM

11 left, i am 10th in chips, villain has stole my blinds relentlesly. Do you push here?



Seat 1: debh39 (925597 in chips)
Seat 4: tommyk1 (256886 in chips)
Seat 6: arno_arno (594764 in chips)
Seat 7: Big Sly Bear (252108 in chips)
Seat 9: hotdawm (591572 in chips)
debh39: posts the ante 1000
tommyk1: posts the ante 1000
arno_arno: posts the ante 1000
Big Sly Bear: posts the ante 1000
hotdawm: posts the ante 1000
debh39: posts small blind 10000
tommyk1: posts big blind 20000
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to tommyk1 [2s 2c]
arno_arno: folds
Big Sly Bear: folds
hotdawm: raises 40000 to 60000
debh39: folds
tommyk1: raises 195886 to 255886 and is all-in
hotdawm: calls 195886
*** FLOP *** [Tc Jh 4d]
*** TURN *** [Tc Jh 4d] [9c]
*** RIVER *** [Tc Jh 4d 9c] [8s]
*** SHOW DOWN ***
tommyk1: shows [2s 2c] (a pair of Deuces)
hotdawm: shows [5h 5c] (a pair of Fives)
hotdawm collected 526772 from pot
*** SUMMARY ***
Total pot 526772 | Rake 0
Board [Tc Jh 4d 9c 8s]
Seat 1: debh39 (small blind) folded before Flop
Seat 4: tommyk1 (big blind) showed [2s 2c] and lost with a pair of Deuces
Seat 6: arno_arno folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 7: Big Sly Bear folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 9: hotdawm (button) showed [5h 5c] and won (526772) with a pair of Fives


Title: Re: push or not?
Post by: Royal Flush on December 29, 2006, 08:34:39 PM
Yeah i push, he has to call 200k to win 300k, he needs a hand to look u up, even if he does have AK AQ etc you are racing. UL to run into a PP.


Title: Re: push or not?
Post by: elblondie on December 30, 2006, 12:14:16 AM
20k commited out of 256k? Instant Fold. Instant Raise with garbage next time no-one else raises.


Title: Re: push or not?
Post by: temp0r on December 31, 2006, 02:47:08 AM
there's alot of dead money in the pot if he does call to make the race logical. you can't expect a pair. i push.


Title: Re: push or not?
Post by: boldie on December 31, 2006, 01:39:32 PM
there's alot of dead money in the pot if he does call to make the race logical. you can't expect a pair. i push.

but why would you risk it? I don't really see why this would be a push..I always pushed in this situation and ussually ended up getting severely punished. Defending your blinds is fine..but if the guy has been stealing your blinds relentlessly you should have done that earlier. Nick his BB back with any two if the pot is unraised...instead of pushing with pocket 2's


Title: Re: push or not?
Post by: Royal Flush on December 31, 2006, 01:45:12 PM

but why would you risk it? Nick his BB back with any two if the pot is unraised

Well nick the blinds you get 35k, nick this pot and you win 95k.....you would have to nick the blinds 3 times.

I don't see the relevance of going after his BB aswell


Title: Re: push or not?
Post by: Graham C on December 31, 2006, 02:47:47 PM
Fold for me, not pushing with a pair of 2's to a play before me.  I'd wait for a better time.


Title: Re: push or not?
Post by: Dubai on January 02, 2007, 07:52:52 AM
Whole hand looks 100% standard to me