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first post, long time lurker:

final table, just doubled up thru ali when he'd raised to 20k 6 handed & i pushed for last 65k from BB with 88.
he eventaully called with 29s & the 8s held up.

down to 4, he & i joint CL with roughly 200k each from a total of 700k.
other 2, surprise, surprise, are fairly passive.
i limp on button for 8k with K-5, SB calls & ali raises to another 30k.

i called.
flop was 6,7,8 no suits.
he pushes all-in.

fold or call?

Lord knows....I'd be tempted to fold though on this board. even against Ali with my open ender (the low end of it)

Call, he has Q5!

Happy new year btw Jules.

Let it go, although i hate the limp call line pre flop. i would re-raise pre flop.

great to see you posting on here Julian


I think you are ahead of an open ended draw

He puts you on biggish cards, thinks you don't have a piece of it and can't call

Call I suppose!

would you call for your entire tourney with the low end of an open ender?
I know Ali can have any two cards BUT that also means he could very well have a part of this flop...where as you at this p[oint are even beaten by ace high.

misread, i thought Julian had a pair


er....rethink time!

It really depends whether you want to race or not.  With his wide range I would be surprised if this call lost chips over the longrun - but surely there must be a better spot later?  Getting knocked out 4th could cost a lot in cash - I know the 2 other players would love you to call.

not yet tighty...lol

But you might be winning with K high!

OK fair enough..but would you risk your entire tourney on that? I probably wouldn't.

You must of played that junk pre flop to hit just this type of flop julian? 

this is Julian we are talking about..............king high is a monster      :D

I don't know what I would do actually - when faced with a situation where I might be ahead and when I'm not I have outs, I do tend to call tho.

See, my problem here (and most peoples I think) is that it's Ali and you always expect him to have rubbish when he raises. But he is a consitently cashing player who does really well.A large part of that has to be from people who simply don't believe him when he sticks all his chips in.

Edit*, you  called a raise with a shitty hand and essentially missed the flop (other then the low end of the open ender) even against Ali you have to let go her IMO and not make the flatcall pre-flop worse by donking off all your chips by calling when your opponent could have you by the short and curlies.

just my two cents.

Well that can happen with a number of better hands as well e.g if Julian had A8 we would be having a different debate, here when he's behind Jules almost def has outs.

well, with A8 here I'd have no problem with the call. I am saying that the outs you have aren't even that good as you are only drawing to the low end of the open ender. (essentially only to the 4) If Ali turns over say K 10 (and with him you never know) you only have 4 outs.

anyway..that's the beauty of being up against someone like Ali..you never know what the right play to make is..but I would fold and take his chips some other time.

Are you sure?

Anyway, I would prob fold as well, but if I was errr sponsored I might see it a good opportunity to bag a win.......

ooppps 7 outs.

4the record, i sponsored myself for this one....

it took a while, but i eventually called, knowing i was gambling.
my reasoning was;
4's & 9's were very likely to be good,
hitting a K is prob good,
hitting a 5 might be good,
& on a very good day king high might just be good.

ali flipped up A7 and i'm embarrased, but pleased to report that i hit the 5 followed by the K to scoop.
in hindsight i think it was technically a bad call, just interested how bad people think it was (i've got plenty like this... ;whistle;)

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that part really cracked me up. NH to take down..so you were big chipleader by then I take it and stormed away with the win?

yes, went onto win which is obv. important after gambling with a big call like that - it really is horrible if you don't close it out after sucking out

nice going!

I'd fold. When I read the post, I thought he had the open ended draw. I'd imagine he makes the complete bluffs on people who he believes will only call with big hands, you're not one of those players.

awful call for me and would have to be an instafold, come to think of it I wouln't have limped with K5 either......what am I saying- I wouldn't have even been in the final :(

I agree with snoops actually, ali is less likely to bluff someone who is known to make "world class" (fine line between world class and idiotic) calls.

standard :)

defo fold for me.

Ali's a complete lunatic but there is method to his madness for the most part, best way to exploit him is to have better hands so for that reason I'd not wanna limp-call anything against him pf. just play big hands strong and you'll likely do fine vs ali

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lol,
well dug up sir,
& there endeth my short lived analysis contibutions  ;technolog;

fantastic