Title: Stupid call or correct call? Post by: moritzey on January 09, 2007, 06:37:30 PM PokerStars Game #7847535181: Tournament #40109564, $10+$1 Hold'em No Limit - Level VI (100/200) - 2007/01/09 - 13:30:27 (ET) Table '40109564 1' 9-max Seat #9 is the button Seat 1: modawg3434 (3595 in chips) Seat 4: moritzey (2740 in chips) Seat 7: Clinkz13 (1095 in chips) Seat 8: Kenta (1780 in chips) Seat 9: filicudi (610 in chips) modawg3434: posts small blind 100 moritzey: posts big blind 200 *** HOLE CARDS *** Dealt to moritzey [6d 7c] Clinkz13: raises 895 to 1095 and is all-in Kenta: folds filicudi: calls 610 and is all-in modawg3434: folds moritzey: calls 895 *** FLOP *** [9s Th 8d] *** TURN *** [9s Th 8d] [Ks] *** RIVER *** [9s Th 8d Ks] [4c] *** SHOW DOWN *** moritzey: shows [6d 7c] (a straight, Six to Ten) Clinkz13: shows [Kd Jd] (a pair of Kings) Clinkz13 said, "76?" moritzey collected 970 from side pot filicudi: shows [Ac Qs] (high card Ace) moritzey collected 1930 from main pot *** SUMMARY *** Total pot 2900 Main pot 1930. Side pot 970. | Rake 0 Board [9s Th 8d Ks 4c] Seat 1: modawg3434 (small blind) folded before Flop Seat 4: moritzey (big blind) showed [6d 7c] and won (2900) with a straight, Six to Ten Seat 7: Clinkz13 showed [Kd Jd] and lost with a pair of Kings Seat 8: Kenta folded before Flop (didn't bet) Seat 9: filicudi (button) showed [Ac Qs] and lost with high card Ace 4 get paid, 11 left Title: Re: Stupid call or correct call? Post by: Royal Flush on January 09, 2007, 06:45:14 PM It's far too many chips to call this IMO. Still NH
Title: Re: Stupid call or correct call? Post by: temp0r on January 09, 2007, 06:49:22 PM if it was a winner takes all tournament it's the correct call. but you have enough chips to fold this.
Title: Re: Stupid call or correct call? Post by: Royal Flush on January 09, 2007, 06:53:02 PM if it was a winner takes all tournament it's the correct call. but you have enough chips to fold this. 900 to win 2k? I don't see how it is ever a correct call vs 2 players. Title: Re: Stupid call or correct call? Post by: Rookie (Rodney) on January 09, 2007, 07:15:22 PM What? This is an eassssssy pass
Title: Re: Stupid call or correct call? Post by: temp0r on January 09, 2007, 07:46:24 PM if it was a winner takes all tournament it's the correct call. but you have enough chips to fold this. 900 to win 2k? I don't see how it is ever a correct call vs 2 players. in a winner takes all tournament with 14 left i think it's a good value call. your cards are live here about 80% of the time as they're both very short stacked. 3 BB and 6 BB. so i would call it. you need chips in that type of tournament after all. but it's not a winner takes all tournament so it doesn't matter! oh wel..l we nearly agreed on something for once.. :dontask: Title: Re: Stupid call or correct call? Post by: Royal Flush on January 10, 2007, 12:47:29 AM What range of hands do you put them on? I can't see this ever being a call.
Title: Re: Stupid call or correct call? Post by: temp0r on January 10, 2007, 07:25:12 AM QJ upward?
Title: Re: Stupid call or correct call? Post by: boldie on January 10, 2007, 09:11:34 AM I'm with flushy. This is never a call for me. Hell guys, even Flushy would fold this... that's a clue in itsself.
I can't see any justification for calling 2 all-ins for 1/3 of your stack with 6/7off here. Title: Re: Stupid call or correct call? Post by: moritzey on January 10, 2007, 12:16:22 PM Heh, don't get me wrong - I agree with you that is was a stupid call, don't really know why I made it to be honest. Was pretty much on tilt due to something that had happened on another table at that time, but I know that that's not much of an excuse. The reason why I asked, though:
After I made the call, there was quite a lot of discussion on the table about it, and two of the other players claimed it was a justified call, considering that both of the othe players were rather desperate for chips, therefore pushing with any two broadway, probably even overlapping to some extent giving me 6 outs and reducing their chance to improve. Didn't make too much sense to me, was just wondering if anyone here would come up with something similar. *off to go install poker stove* Title: Re: Stupid call or correct call? Post by: boldie on January 10, 2007, 12:18:46 PM trusdt me my friend..if even flushy says it's a fold..you can stick your mortgage on the fact that it's a feckin fold.
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