Title: Long time reader, First Time poster Post by: Dubai on January 10, 2007, 08:00:21 AM He is pretty weak passive. And continuation bets far less than the normal headsup player, ive chipped him slowly down.
Given that information whats ur play on the flop, given that preflop u call because u can win pots when he misses more often that not, given that he doesnt continuation bet that much. All 4 options are clearly viable. Ie, Fold, Call, Raise to x, Jam. 25.00/50.00 Texas Hold'em (No Limit ) - 10 January 2007 06:54:53 Heads up $5000 NL (Real /Tournament ) Seat 1: T.BROLIN (1405.00) Seat 2: FlyVirgin (2595.00) T.BROLIN post SB 25.00 FlyVirgin post BB 50.00 ** Deal ** T.BROLIN [N/A, N/A] FlyVirgin [7h, Kc] *** Bet Round 1 *** T.BROLIN Raise to 150.00 FlyVirgin Call 150.00 *** Flop(Board): *** : [5h, 3h, 6h] *** Bet Round 2 *** FlyVirgin Check T.BROLIN Bet 200.00 FlyVirgin ?????? Title: Re: Long time reader, First Time poster Post by: Colchester Kev on January 10, 2007, 08:15:36 AM Standard fold
Title: Re: Long time reader, First Time poster Post by: totalise on January 10, 2007, 08:31:26 AM INSTA CALL
Title: Re: Long time reader, First Time poster Post by: Royal Flush on January 10, 2007, 08:51:33 AM Pass pre flop, pass on the flop. Keep grinding the mug down.
Title: Re: Long time reader, First Time poster Post by: byronkincaid on January 10, 2007, 08:52:00 AM push. obv.
Title: Re: Long time reader, First Time poster Post by: boldie on January 10, 2007, 09:08:26 AM I've not set down with him (obviously if he plays those stakes) but you say he doesn't do continuation bets...so it's a fold and a very easy one. You only have a gutshot straightflush draw and that for me isn't good enough.
You're not giving up anything by folding this hand and a push is could easily get called if this is one of the few times he's ever lead out. I simply wouldn't risk that on a hand as poor as this. Title: Re: Long time reader, First Time poster Post by: Dubai on January 10, 2007, 09:11:10 AM Continuation betting far less means he bets 40% of flops rather than 80% after raising pre.
Title: Re: Long time reader, First Time poster Post by: Royal Flush on January 10, 2007, 09:13:39 AM Continuation betting far less means he bets 40% of flops rather than 80% after raising pre. Players like this are gold dust, why gamble with him? Grind the fool down. Title: Re: Long time reader, First Time poster Post by: Royal Flush on January 10, 2007, 09:14:22 AM P.S. Martin decided to grind his 10BB stack earlier instead of playing a group game of craps, just thought i should name and shame him.
Title: Re: Long time reader, First Time poster Post by: boldie on January 10, 2007, 09:14:55 AM Continuation betting far less means he bets 40% of flops rather than 80% after raising pre. have you played with him before, does he do this through all stages of the tourney, or just the early ones? If he only plays weak during the early stages of a tourney and gets going when the blinds go up then i would stick him all in here. If you don't know that then it's a fold for me as your 7 is too low a heart. Title: Re: Long time reader, First Time poster Post by: doubleup on January 10, 2007, 12:38:57 PM He is even money to have a heart and its v unlikely that its lower than 7 and he almost def calls a push with a couple of high cards including a heart - when he does you are a big dog, so I don't think pushing is right.
Calling is prob best as you might be able to push him off the hand later. Title: Re: Long time reader, First Time poster Post by: marcro on January 10, 2007, 01:01:36 PM Fold and get him later.
Title: Re: Long time reader, First Time poster Post by: snoopy1239 on January 10, 2007, 04:29:44 PM I'd fold and continue to grind him down like Flushy said. You could play back at him, but it's tricky when you're not sure what cards you need to hit. If he's as passive as you say, then you shouldn't have any probs taking this guy's dosh, especially heads-up.
Is that THE T.Brolin?? Title: Re: Long time reader, First Time poster Post by: Horneris on January 10, 2007, 05:49:07 PM Thomas Brolin. What a poor player he was for us (Leeds). Great for Sweden though.
I agree with Flushy for once. Pass pre flop, pass on the flop. Keep grrrrrrrrinding. Title: Re: Long time reader, First Time poster Post by: Indestructable on January 10, 2007, 08:15:15 PM Call to hope for the
4h I think that might be the wrong answer? ;whistle; Title: Re: Long time reader, First Time poster Post by: Nem on January 11, 2007, 11:48:39 PM Pretty much standard
Title: Re: Long time reader, First Time poster Post by: Dubai on January 12, 2007, 04:05:01 AM Yeah it is the Thomas Brolin apparently.
I jammed for reasons that i wont go into but concern stack sizes. He called after a huge dwell with one of the worst hands i could be shown and certainly near the bottom of his range. Kh 7d. I wont say the turn and river because this forum is highly results orientated and poker theory shouldnt be results orientated. I think the order goes. Calling>All in> Folding> Raising to x. Title: Re: Long time reader, First Time poster Post by: maldini32 on January 12, 2007, 06:12:11 AM I wont say the turn and river because this forum is highly results orientated and poker theory shouldnt be results orientated. One of the best posts on here for ages. Title: Re: Long time reader, First Time poster Post by: boldie on January 12, 2007, 08:13:44 AM Yeah it is the Thomas Brolin apparently. I jammed for reasons that i wont go into but concern stack sizes. He called after a huge dwell with one of the worst hands i could be shown and certainly near the bottom of his range. Kh 7d. I wont say the turn and river because this forum is highly results orientated and poker theory shouldnt be results orientated. I think the order goes. Calling>All in> Folding> Raising to x. To be honest I don't think the turn matters..or the river or the result of the hand. I don't get your push and if you had a good reason for it I wouldn't mind contemplating that for a while as I might be missing something here. |