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Title: Donor Register
Post by: Indestructable on January 10, 2007, 06:16:10 PM
With my passport renewal today I had a leaflet about registering as an organ donor. I don't know why we can't all be donors unless we opt out but no doubt it is to do with civil liberties etc.
Any way i have registered via
https://www.uktransplant.org.uk/ukt/

I know that some of you haven't many organs left worth donating, but worth a mention. You never know when a friend or relative may need a donor.
 


Title: Re: Donor Register
Post by: barhell on January 10, 2007, 06:18:53 PM
 :goodpost: ;iagree;
mines done through my driving licence


Title: Re: Donor Register
Post by: Poppet7 on January 10, 2007, 06:41:45 PM
When I was sending off for my full driving license (nearly two years after I passed - oops!) there was a question asking whether I would want to donate my organs. I agreed but felt weird about it afterwards. Hopefully someone will benefit when I die :)


Title: Re: Donor Register
Post by: Colchester Kev on January 10, 2007, 07:12:31 PM
where do i register for a Donor Kebab ?


Title: Re: Donor Register
Post by: ifm on January 10, 2007, 07:21:00 PM
I don't know why we can't all be donors unless we opt out but no doubt it is to do with civil liberties etc.

Because it's wrong, you should choose to opt in not out.


Title: Re: Donor Register
Post by: redsimon on January 10, 2007, 07:33:36 PM
I don't know why we can't all be donors unless we opt out but no doubt it is to do with civil liberties etc.

Because it's wrong, you should choose to opt in not out.

Care to elaborate on why its "wrong"?


Title: Re: Donor Register
Post by: MPOWER on January 10, 2007, 07:35:59 PM
I don't know why we can't all be donors unless we opt out but no doubt it is to do with civil liberties etc.

Because it's wrong, you should choose to opt in not out.

Care to elaborate on why its "wrong"?
;iagree;

Regards

M


Title: Re: Donor Register
Post by: Nem on January 10, 2007, 07:36:31 PM
I don't know why we can't all be donors unless we opt out but no doubt it is to do with civil liberties etc.

Because it's wrong, you should choose to opt in not out.

Why is it wrong, Ian?


Title: Re: Donor Register
Post by: ifm on January 10, 2007, 07:51:57 PM
Simply because people forget, put off things, don't believe it could happen to someone near and dear.


Title: Re: Donor Register
Post by: redsimon on January 10, 2007, 07:59:23 PM
Simply because people forget, put off things, don't believe it could happen to someone near and dear.


So you're not saying donating is wrong just the idea of "opting out"?

Even though I'm on the transplant list for a kidney I think I agree with opting in.

I'd rather people make a conscious decision to donate plus a lot of religions and cultures don't agree with organ transplants.


Title: Re: Donor Register
Post by: ifm on January 10, 2007, 08:06:35 PM
Simply because people forget, put off things, don't believe it could happen to someone near and dear.


So you're not saying donating is wrong just the idea of "opting out"?

Even though I'm on the transplant list for a kidney I think I agree with opting in.

I'd rather people make a conscious decision to donate plus a lot of religions and cultures don't agree with organ transplants.

No i have no problem with it at all for me, i myself have a card but i would not like my kids to have one.
Rightly or wrongly just the thought of my kids having their organs "harvested" upsets me greatly, i know that folks will say "but what if your kids needed a transplant?" etc. and i understand the argument i just couldn't cope with it personally.


Title: Re: Donor Register
Post by: Indestructable on January 10, 2007, 08:43:23 PM
Can understand your feelings, but I would only apply opt out for adults and leaving kids to parents as it is at the moment.


Title: Re: Donor Register
Post by: kinboshi on January 10, 2007, 09:10:35 PM
Opt-out when you're old enough to vote - 18.  Opt-in before then.  Surely that's the simple solution?

I for one could not give a toss what happens to my remains when I'm dead.  Cut up and used for medical science, dog food, landfill - not my concern once I'm dead.



Title: Re: Donor Register
Post by: boldie on January 11, 2007, 10:04:42 AM


I for one could not give a toss what happens to my remains when I'm dead.  Cut up and used for medical science, dog food, landfill - not my concern once I'm dead.



Funny you should say that..as I just had a call from the good people at PAL Medical school and they're stopping by your place tommorow...Now we just have to arrange an...erm accident ;)


I filled in one of them donor cards and someone stopped by to get my hair.... :(

The rest they had no interest in as "It's either too tiny or doesn't work...and somethings are both!"...Not a nice thing to hear I'm telling you...although apparently my scrotum is the size of a 6YO's


Title: Re: Donor Register
Post by: Rod Paradise on January 11, 2007, 10:14:59 AM
Opt-out when you're old enough to vote - 18.  Opt-in before then.  Surely that's the simple solution?

I for one could not give a toss what happens to my remains when I'm dead.  Cut up and used for medical science, dog food, landfill - not my concern once I'm dead.



They feed fish to cats though don't they ;)


Title: Re: Donor Register
Post by: boldie on January 11, 2007, 10:57:06 AM
Opt-out when you're old enough to vote - 18.  Opt-in before then.  Surely that's the simple solution?

I for one could not give a toss what happens to my remains when I'm dead.  Cut up and used for medical science, dog food, landfill - not my concern once I'm dead.



They feed fish to cats though don't they ;)

or just flush em down the toilet?


Title: Re: Donor Register
Post by: Sheriff Fatman on January 11, 2007, 11:01:26 AM
I think its a very personal decision, particularly as it crosses a lot of religious boundaries for some people.

Opt-in is the only way to handle it, for me.

I had a card for a while, then felt a bit weird about it and stopped carrying it (can't remember exactly why now).  Now I can't see a problem again, so I suppose I should get signed up once more.

Sheriff


Title: Re: Donor Register
Post by: marcro on January 11, 2007, 11:03:00 AM
You cannot take something away from someone without specific permission - defaulting to if you do not check the box then you are automatically a donor has no legal standing.


Title: Re: Donor Register
Post by: Colchester Kev on January 11, 2007, 11:04:08 AM
Personally, I think it is more worthy to give blood than carry a donor card.


Title: Re: Donor Register
Post by: Sheriff Fatman on January 11, 2007, 11:14:28 AM
I practically pass out when they take a blood sample from me.  I really hate it for some reason (the needle doesn't bother me, its the tapping for a vein that makes me start to feel sick).

The prospect of taking more than 10ml out of me is something I can't bring myself to go through.


Title: Re: Donor Register
Post by: Zebediah on January 11, 2007, 11:20:06 AM
So remember, when you're feeling very small and insecure,
how amazingly unlikely is your birth,
Pray that there's intelligent life somewhere up in space,
because there's bugger all down here on Earth.

So can we have your organs then???


Title: Re: Donor Register
Post by: Rod Paradise on January 11, 2007, 11:22:38 AM
So remember, when you're feeling very small and insecure,
how amazingly unlikely is your birth,
Pray that there's intelligent life somewhere up in space,
because there's bugger all down here on Earth.

So can we have your organs then???
;applause; ;applause; Classic!!!

I'm on the Donor register, but the card fell to bits in my wallet - my folks know that anyone's welcome to anything salvagable from my sad carcass anyway. I've exercised my liver religiously for years - so it's probably a cracker....


Title: Re: Donor Register
Post by: Zebediah on January 11, 2007, 11:24:09 AM
I am uncomfortable with people cutting me up when I'm dead to save another person life.

I find that thinking quite bizarre personally, but in today's society, not surprising sadly.


Title: Re: Donor Register
Post by: patman on January 11, 2007, 01:44:50 PM
mmh
although i am a donor i think the opt in is still the best way to go....the right to choose to do something should be paramount over the need to tell someone you dont want to...simple really

apart from my clenched left hand with middle finger in the upright position cos thats getting posted to my bank manager


Title: Re: Donor Register
Post by: Rod Paradise on January 11, 2007, 01:50:23 PM
mmh
although i am a donor i think the opt in is still the best way to go....the right to choose to do something should be paramount over the need to tell someone you dont want to...simple really

apart from my clenched left hand with middle finger in the upright position cos thats getting posted to my bank manager

Probably better just sending a picture of it mate ;)


Title: Re: Donor Register
Post by: patman on January 11, 2007, 02:10:29 PM
naaahh rod...i`ll be dead and cut up and parcelled out to make bionic men....

i want him to follow me to the afterlife and see me laughing when he opens up the parcel ;D


Title: Re: Donor Register
Post by: The_nun on January 11, 2007, 02:24:20 PM
No i have no problem with it at all for me, i myself have a card but i would not like my kids to have one.
Rightly or wrongly just the thought of my kids having their organs "harvested" upsets me greatly, i know that folks will say "but what if your kids needed a transplant?" etc. and i understand the argument i just couldn't cope with it personally.
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The above was quoted from a post on this thread

I totaly understand what you are saying Ifm, I  felt this way up until our circumstances changed. I  felt i could never donate my childrens organs, it must be hard enought to lose a child never mind having to make a hard decision like that.

I hope you and yours and anyone reading these posts, never have the missfortune to be in our position, i truly do , but our thoughts have changed soooo very much since Reece was born. You start to think so very differently, this has woke me up and changed my way of thinking. Yes , i guess you are thinking ..ahh well , would she have changed if it were not for Reece's possible transplant needs, well i can not answer that but I know that without donors so many children i have meet over the last 2 years would now be long gone. The way i look at it is, if my organs stay with my body they will either be burnt to a cinder or 6ft under and no use to anyone, but if i let them stay here they have the chance of saving the life of someone and making a whole family life happy again. If that is the last thing i do on this earth , i would be a very happy soul.


Title: Re: Donor Register
Post by: kinboshi on January 11, 2007, 02:30:06 PM
I'm on the Donor register, but the card fell to bits in my wallet - my folks know that anyone's welcome to anything salvagable from my sad carcass anyway. I've exercised my liver religiously for years - so it's probably a cracker....

Still got my card from 1993.  It's looking a little worse for wear, but then again, it's only relfecting the holder's state.

Just interested why people are bothered about what happens to their remains when they're dead.  I'd love to think that my miserable body is acutally of use and could save someone's life. I'm not religious, but surely this is a very 'religious' thing to do - to do something to help others.  The ultimate Christian act is to give your life to save another - and this is the non-'giving up your life way' of doing that.

I give blood, not as often as I should (and I need to sort that out really) - but more people are needed as the blood supplies never last long.  I'm O- as well, which is the sort they can give to anyone, so I should be giving it as often as I can.

I was considering going onto the bone-marrow register.  Slightly bigger deal than giving blood, and something that I probably won't end up doing (I really respect people who are on it).


Title: Re: Donor Register
Post by: kinboshi on January 11, 2007, 02:31:50 PM
I hope you and yours and anyone reading these posts, never have the missfortune to be in our position, i truly do , but our thoughts have changed soooo very much since Reece was born. You start to think so very differently, this has woke me up and changed my way of thinking. Yes , i guess you are thinking ..ahh well , would she have changed if it were not for Reece's possible transplant needs, well i can not answer that but I know that without donors so many children i have meet over the last 2 years would now be long gone. The way i look at it is, if my organs stay with my body they will either be burnt to a cinder or 6ft under and no use to anyone, but if i let them stay here they have the chance of saving the life of someone and making a whole family life happy again. If that is the last thing i do on this earth , i would be a very happy soul.

 :goodpost:


Title: Re: Donor Register
Post by: boldie on January 11, 2007, 02:33:12 PM
I'm on the Donor register, but the card fell to bits in my wallet - my folks know that anyone's welcome to anything salvagable from my sad carcass anyway. I've exercised my liver religiously for years - so it's probably a cracker....

Still got my card from 1993.  It's looking a little worse for wear, but then again, it's only relfecting the holder's state.

Just interested why people are bothered about what happens to their remains when they're dead.  I'd love to think that my miserable body is acutally of use and could save someone's life. I'm not religious, but surely this is a very 'religious' thing to do - to do something to help others.  The ultimate Christian act is to give your life to save another - and this is the non-'giving up your life way' of doing that.

I give blood, not as often as I should (and I need to sort that out really) - but more people are needed as the blood supplies never last long.  I'm O- as well, which is the sort they can give to anyone, so I should be giving it as often as I can.

I was considering going onto the bone-marrow register.  Slightly bigger deal than giving blood, and something that I probably won't end up doing (I really respect people who are on it).

the bone marrow thing takes a LOT of erm..dedication so to speak. My Nephew was a donor for my uncle..and man that did not look comfortable. I give blood (aswell not as often as I should really but giving blood in this country is a pain in the arse..why not just have blood drives?..anyways...as often as I remember to) I would really have to know someone to go through the bone marrow thing though.


Title: Re: Donor Register
Post by: kinboshi on January 11, 2007, 02:40:16 PM
the bone marrow thing takes a LOT of erm..dedication so to speak. My Nephew was a donor for my uncle..and man that did not look comfortable. I give blood (aswell not as often as I should really but giving blood in this country is a pain in the arse..why not just have blood drives?..anyways...as often as I remember to) I would really have to know someone to go through the bone marrow thing though.

Yes, that's pretty much my feelings on it too.  It's a hell of a commitment for a stranger - and probably beyond the levels of my generosity.  My hat goes off to those who do it though.


Quote from: boldie
I give blood (aswell not as often as I should really but giving blood in this country is a pain in the arse..

They take it from my arm whenever I've given blood... :o


Title: Re: Donor Register
Post by: boldie on January 11, 2007, 03:12:22 PM
the bone marrow thing takes a LOT of erm..dedication so to speak. My Nephew was a donor for my uncle..and man that did not look comfortable. I give blood (aswell not as often as I should really but giving blood in this country is a pain in the arse..why not just have blood drives?..anyways...as often as I remember to) I would really have to know someone to go through the bone marrow thing though.

Yes, that's pretty much my feelings on it too.  It's a hell of a commitment for a stranger - and probably beyond the levels of my generosity.  My hat goes off to those who do it though.


Quote from: boldie
I give blood (aswell not as often as I should really but giving blood in this country is a pain in the arse..

They take it from my arm whenever I've given blood... :o

hmmm...well atleast he looked like a doctor.


Title: Re: Donor Register
Post by: tantrum on January 11, 2007, 03:21:19 PM
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I am uncomfortable with people cutting me up when I'm dead to save another person life.

I find that thinking quite bizarre personally, but in today's society, not surprising sadly.

I gather then that if you will be in need of a transplant you will kindly reject an offer....


Title: Re: Donor Register
Post by: ericstoner on January 11, 2007, 11:01:55 PM
Spare A thought for the feelings of the young registrar,who has to approch the bereaved ,at a  time when they may have lost a loved partner,child or other family member. To ask them weather they would allow their deceased love one's organs to be removed to enable someone else to live a full life.

The task is often beyond them, and far to upsetting therefore the useable organs often stay with the body.

The sooner an opt out system becomes the norm, the sooner vital lifegiving Organs help extend a needy persons life, rather than being cremated or buried.