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Title: Move in on the river?
Post by: NoflopsHomer on January 10, 2007, 10:50:54 PM
Hand #38554499-164 at Wed3pmA-004 (No Limit tournament Hold'em)
Started at 10/Jan/07 17:44:08
 
     scrubby doo is at seat 0 with 34950.
     myzislow is at seat 1 with 8690.
     hirisov is at seat 2 with 23010.
     Foaming_Homer is at seat 3 with 22985.
     flipflopdoc is at seat 4 with 57990.
     ugotnuts is at seat 5 with 13395.
     Ever_Tony_an is at seat 6 with 10085.
     chocolatewang is at seat 7 with 21475.
     Holland13 is at seat 8 with 20005.
     Ronnie_Dobbs is at seat 9 with 5125.
     The button is at seat 1.
     
     scrubby doo posts ante (100).
     myzislow posts ante (100).
     hirisov posts ante (100).
     Foaming_Homer posts ante (100).
     flipflopdoc posts ante (100).
     ugotnuts posts ante (100).
     Ever_Tony_an posts ante (100).
     chocolatewang posts ante (100).
     Holland13 posts ante (100).
     Ronnie_Dobbs posts ante (100).
     Foaming_Homer posts the small blind of 400.
     flipflopdoc posts the big blind of 800.

     scrubby doo:  -- --
     myzislow:  -- --
     hirisov:  -- --
     Foaming_Homer:  6d Qd
     flipflopdoc:  -- --
     ugotnuts:  -- --
     Ever_Tony_an:  -- --
     chocolatewang:  -- --
     Holland13:  -- --
     Ronnie_Dobbs:  -- --

Pre-flop:
 
          ugotnuts folds.   Ever_Tony_an folds.   chocolatewang
          folds.   Holland13 folds.   Ronnie_Dobbs folds. 
          scrubby doo folds.   myzislow folds.   hirisov folds. 
          Foaming_Homer calls.   flipflopdoc checks.   

Flop (board: Qs Qh Qc):
 
          Foaming_Homer checks.   flipflopdoc checks.   

Turn (board: Qs Qh Qc Ts):
 
          Foaming_Homer checks.   flipflopdoc bets 2600. 
          Foaming_Homer calls.   

River (board: Qs Qh Qc Ts Tc):
       
       

Should I just push here?


Title: Re: Move in on the river?
Post by: kinboshi on January 10, 2007, 10:53:39 PM
Fold.


Title: Re: Move in on the river?
Post by: AlexMartin on January 11, 2007, 02:58:32 AM
not push. but BIG valooo bet methinks


Title: Re: Move in on the river?
Post by: boldie on January 11, 2007, 09:56:39 AM
yeah stick a decent sized bet in..though pushing could work against lesser players.


Title: Re: Move in on the river?
Post by: LeKnave on January 12, 2007, 06:21:10 AM
InstaFold.

Edit.


Title: Re: Move in on the river?
Post by: temp0r on January 12, 2007, 08:10:16 AM
if he was betting his flush draw on the turn then you're not getting any action. a value bet on the other hand may be raised if it looks stealy enough. so i'd bet just over the size of the pot. and hope he has a 10.


Title: Re: Move in on the river?
Post by: thetank on January 12, 2007, 08:12:33 AM
if he was betting his flush draw on the turn then you're not getting any action. a value bet on the other hand may be raised if it looks stealy enough. so i'd bet just over the size of the pot. and hope he has a 10.

The 10 in the hole is as good as  2d 3c on that board.


Title: Re: Move in on the river?
Post by: M3boy on January 12, 2007, 03:12:01 PM
ALL in without doubt

Also I would of bet the flop hard - he would NEVER put you on a Q when you move all in on the river then


Title: Re: Move in on the river?
Post by: temp0r on January 12, 2007, 07:13:14 PM
if he was betting his flush draw on the turn then you're not getting any action. a value bet on the other hand may be raised if it looks stealy enough. so i'd bet just over the size of the pot. and hope he has a 10.

The 10 in the hole is as good as  2d 3c on that board.

lol. ohshit. if i said i meant pocket 10s would you believe me?  ;whistle;

if i was to move in here i'd probably run down the clock for a bit first incidently. and wouldn't do it i had rocky info on him. otherwise i'm thinking you should now i've thought about it again.


Title: Re: Move in on the river?
Post by: TightPaulFolds on January 12, 2007, 07:59:16 PM
Depends on the opponent. If I've had the privilege of being at his table earlier in the tournament, you know the kind of guy who will bet with a ten, or even without it trying to represent AA KK JJ thinking it's a split pot. Some people I play do it consistently. If he's made a stab at it, he's committed and will call an all in. There are a few players I've been up against who know exactly what all-in means there and if they aint committed enough they will drop it. I was in a similar situation in a cash game, my opponent with KK bet for value on the river and I put them All in with quads for about £200 and they folded declaring my quads, saying 'it was the only thing that made sense.'
Overall, about 60% of those I play would bet into you on the river, and see your reraise as just 'playing chicken'. If they're not going to do that, they're not going to call an all-in if you do that first. Value bet sounds safer, but overall I would say pausing and checking, and typing 'lol' in chatbox is the better move.


Title: Re: Move in on the river?
Post by: tantrum on January 13, 2007, 12:44:35 PM
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ALL in without doubt

Also I would of bet the flop hard - he would NEVER put you on a Q when you move all in on the river then
;iagree;