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Title: am i an idiot?
Post by: brado on January 11, 2007, 07:48:26 PM
[Jan 11 01:56:51] : Hand Start.
[Jan 11 01:56:51] : Seat 2 : tcleaner has $3,840
[Jan 11 01:56:51] : Seat 3 : j-sonic has $720
[Jan 11 01:56:51] : Seat 4 : king bee has $2,220
[Jan 11 01:56:51] : Seat 6 : walkerdg has $3,690
[Jan 11 01:56:51] : Seat 7 : Esdale has $2,600
[Jan 11 01:56:51] : Seat 8 : fold_it has $1,070
[Jan 11 01:56:51] : Seat 9 : Jazzitup45 has $3,860
[Jan 11 01:56:51] : fold_it is the dealer.
[Jan 11 01:56:51] : Jazzitup45 posted small blind.
[Jan 11 01:56:51] : tcleaner posted big blind.
[Jan 11 01:56:51] : Game [34] started with 7 players.
[Jan 11 01:56:51] : Dealing Hole Cards.
[Jan 11 01:56:51] : Seat 2 : tcleaner has 5h Td
[Jan 11 01:56:51] : Stakes: 100/200 Current level: 4 Next level in: 1 min. 
[Jan 11 01:56:55] : j-sonic called 200
[Jan 11 01:56:57] : king bee folded.
[Jan 11 01:56:58] : walkerdg folded.
[Jan 11 01:56:58] : Esdale folded.
[Jan 11 01:56:58] : fold_it folded.
[Jan 11 01:57:00] : Jazzitup45 called 100
[Jan 11 01:57:03] : tcleaner checked.
[Jan 11 01:57:03] : Dealing flop.
[Jan 11 01:57:03] : Board cards [Tc 3d 7s]
[Jan 11 01:57:06] : Jazzitup45 checked.
[Jan 11 01:57:09] : tcleaner bet 300
[Jan 11 01:57:10] : j-sonic folded.
[Jan 11 01:57:11] : Stakes: 100/200 Current level: 4 Next level in: 1 min. 
[Jan 11 01:57:13] : Jazzitup45 called 300
[Jan 11 01:57:13] : Dealing turn.
[Jan 11 01:57:13] : Board cards [Tc 3d 7s 7h]
[Jan 11 01:57:15] : Jazzitup45 checked.
[Jan 11 01:57:21] : tcleaner bet 400
[Jan 11 01:57:24] : Jazzitup45 called 400
[Jan 11 01:57:24] : Dealing river.
[Jan 11 01:57:24] : Board cards [Tc 3d 7s 7h Th]
[Jan 11 01:57:26] : Jazzitup45 checked.
[Jan 11 01:57:31] : Stakes: 100/200 Current level: 4 Next level in: 1 min. 
[Jan 11 01:57:31] : tcleaner bet 400
[Jan 11 01:57:37] : Jazzitup45 called 400 and raised 800
[Jan 11 01:57:45] : tcleaner called 800 and raised 1,740 and is All-in
[Jan 11 01:57:48] : Jazzitup45 called 1,740
[Jan 11 01:57:48] : Showdown!
[Jan 11 01:57:48] : Seat 2 : tcleaner has 5h Td
[Jan 11 01:57:50] : Seat 2 : tcleaner has 5h Td
[Jan 11 01:57:50] : tcleaner has Full House : 10s full of 7s
[Jan 11 01:57:50] : Seat 9 : Jazzitup45 has 7d 7c
[Jan 11 01:57:50] : Jazzitup45 has Four of a kind: 7s
[Jan 11 01:57:50] : Jazzitup45 wins 7,880 with Four of a kind: 7s
[Jan 11 01:57:51] : Stakes: 100/200 Current level: 4 Next level in: 1 min. 
[Jan 11 01:57:57] : tcleaner : ok
[Jan 11 01:57:59] : j-sonic : wow nh
[Jan 11 01:58:00] : Hand is over.

only a $10 game and i was a bit drunk anyway so i'm not that bothered.

but as he check raised me on river, im 95% sure he has the other 10 and we are splitting, so why didnt i just flat call.. just incase he has 77. really i want someone to say theres a chance he had nothing. but no one will. i played it like an nob jockey


Title: Re: am i an idiot?
Post by: M3boy on January 11, 2007, 09:16:30 PM
Blinds I assume are 200 400 in 1 minute.

Nothing you can do by the time the river comes - maybe you can get away on the turn, but he is not going to push u off the hand anyway which means u see the river.

u/l - next comp



Title: Re: am i an idiot?
Post by: brado on January 11, 2007, 09:21:32 PM
my main point was that theres no way i am going to fold if he puts me all in.

the thing was, he didnt. he check raised but i could have flat called his check raise and still had 1700 chips. i think i was being too greedy rereraising thinking it was a defo split pot


Title: Re: am i an idiot?
Post by: Jim-D on January 11, 2007, 09:23:08 PM
If you're sure its a defo split then what is the point in raising?


Title: Re: am i an idiot?
Post by: brado on January 11, 2007, 10:09:02 PM
see subject title


Title: Re: am i an idiot?
Post by: Smart Money on January 12, 2007, 12:32:39 AM
The chance of him holding quads here is very small- you have to raise the river* (and call any all-in that may follow.)

Anyone with an overpair is likely to put in a small river bet to try and keep it cheap for them and/or to see where they are.


*If the non-paired river card (the 3 in this instance) is greater than the lower pair (77) then you may not want to raise as he may have a higher FH of course.





Title: Re: am i an idiot?
Post by: Longy on January 12, 2007, 01:11:26 AM
The only thing i do differently is check behind on the turn.

As for the river i play it the same even tho he has check raised you, there are more hands you are beating than losing to. It might be a pure bluff or an over ambitious 7 even an awfully played overpair (i have seen it before).

The only reason not to get it all in here is if we were on the bubble in SNG or MTT.


Title: Re: am i an idiot?
Post by: M3boy on January 12, 2007, 02:44:28 PM
The only thing i do differently is check behind on the turn.

As for the river i play it the same even tho he has check raised you, there are more hands you are beating than losing to. It might be a pure bluff or an over ambitious 7 even an awfully played overpair (i have seen it before).

The only reason not to get it all in here is if we were on the bubble in SNG or MTT.

Totally agree


Title: Re: am i an idiot?
Post by: temp0r on January 13, 2007, 03:59:52 PM
your bet on the river was horrific. and the turn for that matter. you have enough BB to check this down and call a small bet on the river.


Title: Re: am i an idiot?
Post by: AlexMartin on January 14, 2007, 03:19:05 AM
Bah, i do my bollox here and load the next comp. So many idiots with misplayed overpairs esp in a $10 comp to make the play worth it


Title: Re: am i an idiot?
Post by: Royal Flush on January 16, 2007, 07:55:34 PM
your bet on the river was horrific. and the turn for that matter. you have enough BB to check this down and call a small bet on the river.

How is the turn bet horrific?

Think you were just UL m8, against a known player i opt for the flat call, against an unknown i assume usual moron player and lump it in.