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I'm trying to work out why I'm not quite getting there in tournaments at the moment so I'm going to look at exit/damaging hands to see where I'm going wrong.

So, tourrney 1, any thoughts on the way I played it?

PokerStars Game #7915727154: Tournament #39825059, $10+$1 Omaha Pot Limit - Level XII (800/1600) - 2007/01/13 - 13:40:47 (ET)
Table '39825059 20' 9-max Seat #7 is the button
Seat 2: cbrchutney (42514 in chips)
Seat 3: xDANGERZONEx (29676 in chips)
Seat 4: tommas1974 (16180 in chips)
Seat 5: tommi1212 (64609 in chips)
Seat 6: SoerenV (119526 in chips)
Seat 7: ArnieAA (63386 in chips)
Seat 9: Graham0573 (14868 in chips)
Graham0573: posts small blind 800
cbrchutney: posts big blind 1600
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to Graham0573 [Ad 5c Kd 3s]
xDANGERZONEx: folds
tommas1974: folds
tommi1212: calls 1600
SoerenV: calls 1600
ArnieAA: folds
Graham0573: calls 800
cbrchutney: checks
*** FLOP *** [5h 8s 3d]
Graham0573: bets 4800
cbrchutney: folds
tommi1212: calls 4800
SoerenV: calls 4800
*** TURN *** [5h 8s 3d] [7h]
Graham0573: checks
tommi1212: checks
SoerenV: bets 17600
Graham0573: calls 8468 and is all-in
tommi1212: folds
*** RIVER *** [5h 8s 3d 7h] [Ts]
*** SHOW DOWN ***
Graham0573: shows [Ad 5c Kd 3s] (two pair, Fives and Threes)
SoerenV: shows [7c 4s 3h 6h] (a straight, Four to Eight)
SoerenV collected 37736 from pot
*** SUMMARY ***
Total pot 37736 | Rake 0
Board [5h 8s 3d 7h Ts]
Seat 2: cbrchutney (big blind) folded on the Flop
Seat 3: xDANGERZONEx folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 4: tommas1974 folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 5: tommi1212 folded on the Turn
Seat 6: SoerenV showed [7c 4s 3h 6h] and won (37736) with a straight, Four to Eight
Seat 7: ArnieAA (button) folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 9: Graham0573 (small blind) showed [Ad 5c Kd 3s] and lost with two pair, Fives and Threes

I'm 20 out of 22 left, money is on 18.  I called the BB mainly because I'd have nothing for absolutely ages, AKs isn't too bad even though my other cards are crap.  Then I made 2 pairs on the flop with my bad cards.

Should I have bet into this?   Trouble is the chip leader is in the pot.  If I don't bet, he will bet then what do I do?   The turn card  7h I really didn't want but am I pot commited?  I thought so so I called.  If I'd have folded I'd have had to double up to still be 20 out of 22.

I think (in hindsight having lost the hand) I should have just folded preflop.  I usually look for some sort of relationship between all four cards but not having played a hand for ages I thought I'd see what happens on the flop with this one.  The two pairs with my weak two hards was a bit o a surprise.  Fold preflop next time, wait for better times, especially around the bubble.  Shame the CL had so many chips, I'd have folded his hand preflop for sure :D

[quote author=Silo Graham link=topic=19060.msg387618#msg387618 date=1168714149

I think (in hindsight having lost the hand) I should have just folded preflop.  I usually look for some sort of relationship between all four cards but not having played a hand for ages I thought I'd see what happens on the flop with this one. 
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No need to help when you answer your own question ;)

theres no chance you should fold this preflop.. theres 5600 in the pot and 800 to call, thats 7/1 rite there. Calling pre is super standard, your hand on the flop is pretty weak with little chance of improvment, so call preflop, and check flop with a view to folding if theres any action behind.

Yes thanks, just wanted to make sure really.  Call, Check, Fold.  Better than being out

Ta, case closed, next one to follow soon :D

 ;iagree;


Also his hand is very playable.