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PokerStars Game #7992620287: Tournament #40451722, $10+$1 Hold'em No Limit - Level XIII (1000/2000) - 2007/01/17 - 22:23:51 (ET)
Table '40451722 16' 9-max Seat #8 is the button
Seat 1: Glow85 (31013 in chips)
Seat 2: boypoker21 (10989 in chips)
Seat 4: coltrain STL (24416 in chips)
Seat 5: Hicks19 (20408 in chips)
Seat 6: chang_rich (33068 in chips)
Seat 7: freakdig (33050 in chips)
Seat 8: samclay (30535 in chips)
Seat 9: salto (213684 in chips)
Glow85: posts the ante 100
boypoker21: posts the ante 100
coltrain STL: posts the ante 100
Hicks19: posts the ante 100
chang_rich: posts the ante 100
freakdig: posts the ante 100
samclay: posts the ante 100
salto: posts the ante 100
salto: posts small blind 1000
Glow85: posts big blind 2000
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to boypoker21 [Jd Qs]
boypoker21: raises 8889 to 10889 and is all-in
coltrain STL: folds
Hicks19: folds
chang_rich: raises 22079 to 32968 and is all-in
freakdig: folds
samclay: folds
salto: calls 31968
Glow85: folds
boypoker21 said, "lol"
*** FLOP *** [7s 3d 2c]
*** TURN *** [7s 3d 2c] [Js]
*** RIVER *** [7s 3d 2c Js] [8s]
*** SHOW DOWN ***
salto: shows [Jc Ks] (a pair of Jacks)
chang_rich: shows [Qd Kh] (high card King)
salto collected 44158 from side pot
boypoker21: shows [Jd Qs] (a pair of Jacks - lower kicker)
samclay said, "nh"
salto collected 35467 from main pot
*** SUMMARY ***
Total pot 79625 Main pot 35467. Side pot 44158. | Rake 0
Board [7s 3d 2c Js 8s]
Seat 1: Glow85 (big blind) folded before Flop
Seat 2: boypoker21 showed [Jd Qs] and lost with a pair of Jacks
Seat 4: coltrain STL folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 5: Hicks19 folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 6: chang_rich showed [Qd Kh] and lost with high card King
Seat 7: freakdig folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 8: samclay (button) folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 9: salto (small blind) showed [Jc Ks] and won (79625) with a pair of Jacks

Not the worst considering his stack size.

Not too bad considering the size of his stack and the value hes getting

ofcourse it's a bad call. You don't call off 14% of your stack when you're the chip daddy with a marginal holding like JK against 2 all-ins.

I also think it's a bad push from UTG. to be honest.

Yer your UTG push was appalling. But i didnt want to be rude and say that. But seeing as though Boldie has  ;whistle;

 rotflmfao ...well I didn't use the word appaling to be fair...it was but I didn't use the word ;)

Really, he has 11K and it's costing him 4k per round. I push the first unopened pot.

But, id rather be committed on the BB where theres a chance you may be against one opponent and not in a dominated position, or maybe even though unlikely you may get a walk.

With a hand like QJ pushed UTG, you are likely to be called be dominating hands such as KJ, KQ, AJ, AQ a lot of the time.

Thats just my view anyway. There will be plenty of people who share your view. But in my opinion you exit from the tournament a higher percentage of the time with the UTG push, than the BB commitment/chance it could be folded round. People will sometimes be more likely to fold if they think youre committed on the BB.

i don't know what happened to him to get this low but UTG is always an unopened pot. Unless he got beat in the previous hand and that's the reason he is low he should have pushed earlier.
If he just lost most of his chips in the previous hand I would wait for my BB and get them in there.

So if one person raises your BB are you calling blind and if you have 2 limpers are you auto pushing?

What about one limper, if you push they are gettin 9-16 which is pretty much and auto call for them.

no id see a flop. blinds 1/2, not 2/4. can see another round and find a hand worth pushing with.

the reason i gt this low i gt busted 4 a 90k pot 2 hands a go with kk vs 99.it is still a bad call by kj callin off the big stack he/she had with a raise all in an a re raise all in already.i think i made bit of a bad play bt i dont wana risk havin 72 nx hand and dont wana be dwindling down my stack.i wud rather take a risk

oh yh thanks 4 the replys

true it would be an autocall for them but most of the table would also consider you to be going all in anyways so they are more likely to leave you alone.
I would much rather go all in with 67 off on the BB then push under the gun with JQ as most hand that would/might call you are likely to have one of your cards when you hold JQ and there fore you're more likely to be dominated.

Pure madness, hotdog your push from UTG is 100% the right thing to do. You get it through quite a decent % of the time getting you 3800 chips, occasionally you get called you are then either out or on juat under 26k. If you pass and lose both blinds which is the most likley scenario you are down to 7.8k by the button, pushing here gets called a much higher % of the time, and even if you get a hand you are only doubling to under 19k.

This is an insta-ship with any 2 for me.

Unless of course you know that in the next round you are somehow going to get a massive hand.

I dont know about u lot but im pushin all day wit q j utg there... if blinds go through you once more no ones passin to ur raise. Hot dog u did nowt wrong. And the Kj is a dodgy call. I pass kj, push wit q j.

Yes, it is a bad call. Now you know how he got that big stack.

What did you pass the previous hand?

lost massive pot wid kk 90k if i recall correctly

You said 2 hands ago. If so you must have passed one. Some people would argue that you should push on any 2 cards assuming that UTG had passed. I dunno, Harrington didn't really improve my results.

lol think it was 82 if  i remeber rightly