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Title: Running it twice.
Post by: I KNOW IT on January 19, 2007, 06:17:20 AM
Watching an episode of HSP a common thing to occur was " to run it twice " where the turn and river card were dealt twice, in one instance the whole flop( 5 cards) were dealt twice ( farha AA vs Mattasow 10's) with farha hitting set on 1st go and mattasow catching set on 2nd flop..

Whats peoples opinions on this rule being allowed, would we like it to be introduced over here(its not allowed to my knowledge) .
Does it have affect on the game?
After, in the interview Mattasow commented that he would have been losing 10k instead of winning 50k if they  hadnt ran it twice. That to me proves its not in everyones intrest to allow players to run it twice.

Whats your thoughts?


Title: Re: Running it twice.
Post by: Royal Flush on January 19, 2007, 06:19:03 AM
Reducing variance is the only thing that changes so how can it be a bad thing. If people want to do it then i say let them do it.


Title: Re: Running it twice.
Post by: MrsLime on January 19, 2007, 06:28:00 AM
taking this to its logical conclusion, players should have the option, when they are all-in, to get out a calculator, work out the exact percentages for each player, and just split the pot thusly

so if the pot was $50,000, farha would take $40,050 and matusow would take $9,950 and they wouldn't even bother dealing a flop

no more bad beats!!


Title: Re: Running it twice.
Post by: I KNOW IT on January 19, 2007, 06:29:55 AM
During the rest of the show the players commented that they all felt like they all had taken a bad beat when Mike spiked the 10. Obviously players play different when winning than on the chase.
So reducing the variance is a bad thing


Title: Re: Running it twice.
Post by: nirvana on January 19, 2007, 07:19:35 AM
Bit hard to comment critically on other peoples private game and rules.

The scenario of insurance, tho not in exact proportion based on hand equity, that Ms Lime describes came up on last nights show in a hand between Hellmuth and Greenstein


Title: Re: Running it twice.
Post by: Royal Flush on January 19, 2007, 08:10:53 AM
taking this to its logical conclusion, players should have the option, when they are all-in, to get out a calculator, work out the exact percentages for each player, and just split the pot thusly

so if the pot was $50,000, farha would take $40,050 and matusow would take $9,950 and they wouldn't even bother dealing a flop

no more bad beats!!


Insurance like that has always been a part of the big game, i heard a story about some mug playing the big game getting himself in a good spot against doyle i think, he managed to sell his hand to Ivey for insurace, Doyle then went runner runner on Ivey costing him big!