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Title: $1/$2 cash , opinions needed!
Post by: sweet potata! on January 19, 2007, 06:13:26 PM
eat 1: Monti666 ( $186.25 )
Seat 4: BLUECHIP1956 ( $79.20 )
Seat 5: Duwicelli ( $267.85 )
Seat 6: AloaMrFishCall ( $404.60 )
Seat 7: Daranton ( $337.05 )
Seat 10: lapom ( $180.45 )
Seat 8: webers81 ( $189.20 )
Seat 9: bubistdu ( $35 )
Seat 2: HERO ( $95 )
Seat 3: alexbo ( $98 )
bubistdu posts small blind [$1].
lapom posts big blind [$2].
** Dealing down cards **
Dealt to HERO  Jh Jc
Monti666 folds
HERO raises [$6]
>You have options at Jackpot #1304571 Table!.
alexbo calls [$6]
BLUECHIP1956 folds
Duwicelli folds
AloaMrFishCall folds
Daranton folds
webers81 folds
bubistdu folds
lapom folds
** Dealing Flop ** [ 5h, 3h,  4s ]
HERO bets [$12]

alexbo calls [$12]
** Dealing Turn ** [  7c ]



OK  bit of a pickle whats peoples line of play from here  and why ? , i had no real take on this players play so i cant help in that regard


Title: Re: $1/$2 cash , opinions needed!
Post by: doubleup on January 19, 2007, 06:33:12 PM


It's a bit difficult without knowing something about the player.  He might be playing weak tight with an overpair or have a drawing hand or hit a set.  All in all, there are far more hands that are beating you than you beat.  You could try a small turn bet, maybe $6 and the same on the river, but I can't see you getting to the showdown here with the best hand too often.


Title: Re: $1/$2 cash , opinions needed!
Post by: MadYank on January 19, 2007, 06:57:03 PM
Check fold to any serious action


Title: Re: $1/$2 cash , opinions needed!
Post by: Royal Flush on January 19, 2007, 07:11:07 PM
Bet $20, it's unlikely he has a 6.


Title: Re: $1/$2 cash , opinions needed!
Post by: sweet potata! on January 19, 2007, 07:26:53 PM
Bet $20, it's unlikely he has a 6.

he may not have "a 6 " what about pocket 6's , maybe he has flopped a set , maybe he has a flush draw , or maybe he has an overpair to mine(least likely , but possible )

P.S if u bet $20 on the turn and he calls or u get  get re raised allin what then flushy ? ? ? ? ?whats ur plan of attack for the remainder of the hand

thx in advance


Title: Re: $1/$2 cash , opinions needed!
Post by: Royal Flush on January 19, 2007, 07:32:40 PM
The $20 is the last money i put in the pot, any resistance and i gveup on the pot.


Title: Re: $1/$2 cash , opinions needed!
Post by: UpTheMariners on January 20, 2007, 01:05:16 PM
you can't check just because you got a scare card on the turn. i keep betting here but not quite as aggressively. unless am told otherwise by him raising i am proberly ahead against his flush draw or overpair. if you get raised on the turn you could be looking at a set or striaght. if he calls quickly on the turn, he could be flushing so i would check fold here on the river if a heart comes.   


Title: Re: $1/$2 cash , opinions needed!
Post by: Horneris on January 21, 2007, 10:22:21 AM
I struggle with hands like this too.

Part of me says to agree with Flushy and bet out $20. Because im too aggressive and greedy just to give up on the $39 pot.

But in saying this, im not sure that i see the point as i really cant see him folding. He could easily have suited connectors in the range of 45, 56, 67 and already have you beat. He could also have a set. Or he could just have the hearts. There are a lot of hands that can beat you here in my opinion, and only a certain amount that you can beat.

And i struggle to see you winning this one if hes any good, because if he dosent have you beat, if hes a decent player he may put you on a high pair and use the board to scare you off by raising to 40/50 (if youve raised 20). I would probably do this in his shoes on a board like this.

Very difficult one to play this one. There is also a fear that if he calls the $20 on the turn, you check the river and he bets out another $30. And you go on to lose $68, when you could have just lost the $18. I hate to say it, but the suggested Check/Fold might be the right action here.
 
Im intrigued to know what happened.


Title: Re: $1/$2 cash , opinions needed!
Post by: johnbhoy76 on January 21, 2007, 01:23:03 PM
eat 1: Monti666 ( $186.25 )
Seat 4: BLUECHIP1956 ( $79.20 )
Seat 5: Duwicelli ( $267.85 )
Seat 6: AloaMrFishCall ( $404.60 )
Seat 7: Daranton ( $337.05 )
Seat 10: lapom ( $180.45 )
Seat 8: webers81 ( $189.20 )
Seat 9: bubistdu ( $35 )
Seat 2: HERO ( $95 )
Seat 3: alexbo ( $98 )
bubistdu posts small blind [$1].
lapom posts big blind [$2].
** Dealing down cards **
Dealt to HERO  Jh Jc
Monti666 folds
HERO raises [$6]
>You have options at Jackpot #1304571 Table!.
alexbo calls [$6]
BLUECHIP1956 folds
Duwicelli folds
AloaMrFishCall folds
Daranton folds
webers81 folds
bubistdu folds
lapom folds
** Dealing Flop ** [ 5h, 3h,  4s ]
HERO bets [$12]

alexbo calls [$12]
** Dealing Turn ** [  7c ]



OK  bit of a pickle whats peoples line of play from here  and why ? , i had no real take on this players play so i cant help in that regard

This is horrible now because you are out of position with one pair and a scary board.

He might be on a flush draw

If he had AA, KK, QQ then surely he wouldn't be slow playing them on such a flop?

66 is a possibility.

To be honest I'd check here and fold to a substantial bet and wait for a better situation when I know I am in front

p.s.  I think this hand shows the power of position. The guy could have J3 or K2 and he's still probably going to take this pot down regardless of what cards he's holding



Title: Re: $1/$2 cash , opinions needed!
Post by: sweet potata! on January 21, 2007, 01:39:02 PM
Well i dont think i will get many more reply's , so what happened was ........

I decided to check the turn, it was a nightmarish spot to be in out of position as i mentioned previously there was a multitude of hands out there that had me beat , and as he called me on the flop i felt he was gonna call the turn too i was hopin he would check behind  and id get to a showdown as cheap as possible.

Unfortunately he fired out $20 at me on the turn , i really really really was at a loss to know what to do here , i was that bad i genuinely timed out ! was still undecided

So anyway a while later i asked the guy that was in the hand what he had , he said "hold on a min " (i assume he went to check his HH) and came back and said he had .................. 9s 9h

In hindsight which of course is 20/20 as always i would kept up the aggression on the turn , but im wondering whether he would have folded if i had bet say $20 on the turn like others suggested , there may still have been alot more headaches to follow on the river !