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Two Proposals Worth Considering...


New Gas Plan...


Blair wants us to cut the amount of fuel we use. The best way to Stop using so much fuel is to deport 5 million illegal immigrants!

That would be 5 million less people using our fuel. The price of fuel would have to come down as a result, and global warming slowed.


New Immigration Plan...

Bring our troops home from Iraq to guard the border. When they catch An illegal immigrant crossing the border, hand him a canteen, rifle and some ammo and ship him to Iraq . Tell him if he wants to come to Britain, then he must serve a tour in the military. Give him a soldier's pay while he's there and tax him on it. After his tour, he will be allowed to become a citizen since he fought for this country.

He will also be registered to be taxed and! be a legal patriot. This option will probably deter illegal immigration and provide a solution for the troops in Iraq , and the aliens trying to make a better life for themselves.
If they refuse to serve, ship them to Iraq anyway, without the canteen, rifle or ammo.


Problem solved.

standard

Gets my vote

I can see you in the local council elections........and you may even win...

im not being funny but unlike france, spain, germany, turkey and the US we are a bloody island!. We are self contrlled and as such everything coming in SHOULD AND COULD  be monitired successfully. We are also no the biggest country therefore it would not take all the countrys resources to have much more stringent immigration controls. There is only one 2 ways across, through the tunnel in a lorry or on a boat to a major port. Why does it seem out of the question to be able to catch them at these points!!! Its just ludicrous!

Where are the masses of illegal immigrants of whom you speak?

I went out today and didn't see any.

Patrick, can't you see these invisible forces that threaten us every day?

Do you work for the customs ?

If we burn 20 million martian invaders every year then we solve the fuel problem and the martian invasion problem.

booder where did you get this number from?  BNP leaflets?

how did your tour of bus marschalling go?  :D

http://blondepoker.com/forum/index.php?topic=14810.0

My main concern with your idea is that the troops in Iraq (if they're there at all) need to be trained better, winning over hearts and minds etc, instead of beating the living s*** out of 14 year old kids who throw rocks. Sending a bunch of untrained asylum seekers would just pour gas on the problem no?

If, along with our partners the US, we continue to cause major upheval, or just plain blow s**t out of places like Iran, El Salvador, Libya, Sinai, Lebanon, Egypt, Honduras, Chad, Afghanistan, Serbia, Iraq, Bolivia, Pananma, Columbia, Kuwait, Zaire, Sierra Leone, Somalia, Macedonia, Bosnia, Haiti, Bangui, Liberia, Albania, Cambodia, Kenya, Tanzania, Sudan, East Timor, Yemen and Iraq agan for good measure. Perhaps we have  a responsibility to take in the odd asyluym seeker on a Tuesday.

If we had a foreign policy that involved leaving folks alone to get the hell on with it, then and only then could we justify a border policy along stricter guidelines.

Exactly what you read.

Your post is a total 'daily mail' standard crap.

I am too tired to discuss with you, and explain to you your offensive post.  But perhaps I can suggest you, that instead of sending those illegal immigrants to Iraq why don't we use them as a fuel?  This would be much cheaper and effective way of cleaning this country of illegal immigrants. I think they have some prototypes left in Poland, why not go and have a look if they are still working.

Tank - asylum seekers who received 'leave to remain' are legal so not included in booder's pledge. 

 ;popcorn;

Boo, once you have lit the blue paper you are supposed to retreat to a safe distance.

Nope, but your post might as well come from the BNP leaflets.  This what I was suggesting.

I am not a supporter of the BNP, but it is a legal party.  I thought it was terrible the negative attitudes towards a ballerina reported as a BNP supporter recently in the news. She has a right to vote for whoever she wants. It is suppose to be a free Country after all, but sometimes I get the feeling we are not aloud to express any point of view which is slightly against the norm.

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/entertainment/6241763.stm

I think booder just wants to stir up a little debate.

No need to get nasty and liken the man to a concentration camp colonel. If you disagree, calmly explaining your logic and rationale for your opposing stance, without resorting to insults, is probably the best way to go.

If you are too tired to discuss your differences peacefully, where do you get the energy for a skeething "why don't you just burn them all you vile monster" post? One would think this to take up more energy.

With true debate, you can hash out the very meaning of existance. Spouting retorts such as "daily mail standard crap" is never going to change the mind of someone who doesn't already agree with you.


This post may not be Booder's real view, and if you met him, you'd know he was a lovely fella. Don't be so quick to dole out the damnation.

81% of statistics are made up anyway.

But your OP referred to illegal immigrants.

Could you clarify?

and who cares?

Boots

poor racist balerina, I feel for her....

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obviously you do  as it was you that first remarked on it.

I thought we had 5 million troops in Iraq using their fuel? ;)

The Big Issue told me so.

Not only that, but she had the temerity to disguise her racism by living and having a child with someone of Chinese origin.

How crafty.

lol, I am not in agreement with her. I just think she should be allowed to vote for whoever she wants without being criticised for it.  I would never vote for Conservatives because of their stance on the hunting ban, but that doesn't mean I think it is wrong for pro hunting supporters to vote for that Party.  We should all have freedom of speech

So tell me Sark, are you criticising the people who criticised her?

yes i don;t like people who spread rumours.... ;)

7% of 60.5  million is just below 5 million.  those are all immigrants - legal and illegal.  So your 5 million is a pure fantasy number, which could be taken from the likes of Daily Mail or othe right wing publications.  That's all.  

How did you come up with the name Tantrum ??

Having child with somone who is of chinese origins does not mean one can't be racist.  But having a mix race child and joining BNP must be an interesting for this child to read some literature that BNP produces every year.  Even more reason to fire her.

It is a fair point that you can't deny people a voice, just because their political views clash with your own.

Let them say a, b and see all them Muslims, we should send them home. Attacking their right to express this contradicts the very values our free society is based upon.

Denying people a voice is totalitarian, not a very lefty form of governing that. I do feel sorry for the ballerina.

Good point.  It is wrong to attack one person because she is in the public eye, they don't go after the BNP supporter who works on the local fish market or the bus driver who votes BNP.

Ok, I will leave it there on this one   :D , you have me.  I have just spotted a massive flaw in my argument as I fully support animal rights activists who target a high profile celeb who wears fur, etc.

Well meaning protestors, but ffs.

Demanding that someone be fired for their political beliefs is not only such a huge contradiction to the left wing platform I assume most of them advocate, but their doing so only serves to strengthen the BNP party.

Lobby the politicians, speak to the public on the issues, but leave the friggin dancers be.

Booder the first part is sound mate about shipping the spongers out, but remember not all are spongers. Alot are genuine people like ourselves who have been persecuted, had their family members tortured and killed. Most of the British Public sit in their little houses and grind out daily life with one or two holidays a year to the seaside or if there lucky, away to foreign beaches. They read the papers and listen to the news, all of which is TRUE. lol

On my second tour of Bosnia we used to visit a family of Muslims(1 old boy 80's and 7 women 80 down to 3 yrs old) every 6 weeks. The men were fighting or dead. They were pretty isolated and due to move out as refugees when the mother gave birth. She was 8 months pregnant but was intent on her child growing up in Germany or England. As part of of our T.A.O.R (Tactical Area Of Response) we would report on these families in remote locations. We got quite friendly and would give them brown biscuits and boiled sweets out of our Ration Packs (horrible).

Our August visit there was one l will not forget as we found them nailed to nearby trees with the mothers breasts cut off and her near full size baby hanging by the umbilical cord from her cut open belly. There feet had been chewed by scavengers and the girls aged 16 and 11 had been violently raped before been bayoneted in the eyes. I had to put a white scenes of crime suit on with 5 others from my patrol and photograph this all and then put all the bodies in bodybags. I remember we had not enough so l told the lads to use bin bags we had in the Warriors (an armoured vehicile) for rubbish. We travelled back with these bodies in the back. It took us three days getting back as we had to complete our patrol. Lads that were in the back with these bodies never recovered and had to return to England.

That family never made it to England, but l wish they had because l know they would have worked hard for a simple life. The Serbs that done this were never brought to justice.

As for the second part of your suggestion Booder. Unfortunately a man just can't take a gun and go to a warzone as his life expectancy is very low. It takes an average of 112k of taxpayers money to train a basic Infantryman, another 14k to kit him out and 1k per week in logistics to keep him going in a warzone. Don't think your suggestion will work mate.

 :goodpost:

That's a great post and a good point well made Mick.

I've always respected you, one because you're a strong willed, individual type of person, and two because you are a good dog man. (anyone who loves and understands dogs cant be all bad)

If you weren't such a prickly ba***rd, I could even start to like you.

I'm not saying she's not dim - she'd have to be to endorse the BNP whilst having a mixed race child.

She's not racist though.

The protestors time would be better spent lobying the Conservative and Labour Parties, saying that support is being gained by extreme right wing fringes because neither of them are speaking to the country, in a way they can get ahold of, as to how to handle immigration, the big issue of the day.

I'm no politician, but I'd love to see someone speak on this, without trying to pander and sit on the fence. Rallying the country around big ideas and ideals.

I don't care if the stance they take is to the right, or the left, but they need to be firm, resolute and speak in a way that makes people believe they actually know what they are talking about. 

While to the left of this myself, I'd much rather the government handled it in a manner not of my choosing, than BNP gain 100 more seats in local councils.

Anyone else not think boo was just having a laugh?

Mick that post was truely horrible.

 :goodpost:

On a related note, I find it infuriating when a vocal minority of British Muslims criticise the British foreign policy as 'anti-Muslim' - conveniently ignoring our involvement in Bosnia, and the fact that the war in Iraq was (partly) in order to give the people of Iraq (the majority of whom are Muslims) freedom from a tyranical dictator.

Not condoning (or condemning) the war in Iraq, but just highlighting a point.

You don't have to agree with a political party's platform 100% to support them. If that were the case, you'd need 50,000 different political parties in the country, as you rarely meet people who agree on everything.

Peter Snow couldn't cope with that many, poor guy is getting on a bit.

Yes and yes.

Duhhhh

It's all about exposing tantrum as a Nazi now.

Yep, but it is started now  :D

Dan Snow could help him out

Boo was having a luagh, Tantrum has strong opinions on these subjects, Slick Kids' post was horrible but brilliant, the tank is after a utopian solution and now Sark re-appears on the thread


Lets all have a group hug. p.s I bagsy Tantrum for the hug......

I'll take Slicks little black greyhound bitch.

Are there certain days when being a mod is harder work than others?   :D .   When a thread starts like this one or another how do you keep on top of all the various posts being added

Some days, being a mod is horrible. Other days, it's worse!

Yes

Personally I always ensure that I have a handy excuse to go offline for a few hours.....

Tom there are 4 here looking good homes, if interested let me know you old dog. My babes are having there first visit to Brighton with me this week for a run on the beach.

In response to Micks post, which was horrific , makes you wonder how a human can possibly do this to another human. What makes these people tick and who would follow these orders or whatever made them commit these horrendous  acts

I've kept, bred and worked sight hounds of one sort or another for most of my life Mick, but I don't have the time to care for one properly at the moment.

That doesn't mean I don't appreciate a bonny one with a sweet nature when I see one though.

Thanks for the offer all the same.

Bad isn't good, until it gets worse.

Most people haven't got the bollox to disagree with or challenge authority. Also, way too many people are lazy thinkiers (if they think at all).

Both these factors IMO go some way to explaining how 'ordinary people' stand by and watch sick things happen and/or perpetrate atrocities. Ties in with what Milgram's psychological experiements were looking at. Concluding that the average American had the potential to carry out the very same war crimes of the SS (or words to that effect, Psychology isn't my field).

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Milgram_experiment

al you need to know bout milgrams experiment. Good read. would you follow commands or disobey?

I find jokes about immigrants - very inappropriate on public forums - where always some will join in and will call immigrants - 'spongers but not all spongers,' few will chip in with Muslim allusions and so forth.  Yes I might be a liberal Nazi who says no to ignorant and insensitive jokes that might be read by few on this forum who are immigrants living in this country.  Confusing various immigrants groups with asylum seekers is another good example  of lack of knowledge on the subject.

I am one of the immigrants.  Everyday anywhere I go, there is someone who will say - immigrants this, immigrants that, wtf- then some will try to say 'but we are more tolerant then others' - perhaps, but not as tolerant as one might wish from the so called 'civilised country'.   


I never made my 'foreign' status obvious on this forum as I thought it is not necessary, but every few weeks someone will manage to express their views or jokes that frankly are replacement of the jokes from the past that were about Irish, blacks and whatever.


As an internet forum, and run by British people it is easily assumed that only white Brits would read the threads.  The assumption of white is quite obvious because of quite frequent comments with racist undertones emerge from time to time.

I had few friends who have looked through this forum while back, and they were shocked by some of the views posted here and being allowed. 

The obsession that is ever present with asylum seekers and immigrants verge on pathological in this country.  Thanks to 'PC brigade' there are laws in place that at least can enable 'non-white Brits' to have some rights.

The reason I moved here long time ago was because London was a multi - racial and fairy integrated city; London is unique in the level of multi-cultural integration, this is what has attracted me here in the first place.  But with the New Labour- the word tolerance to wards 'the other' is slowly fading from the political landscape.  It is so easy to blame 'the others' - immigrants for the NHS failing, lost manufacturing, jobs and poverty.

Easy scape goats we immigrants are.   Part of being an immigrant is to learn to get used to ignorance, but it does not mean we can't question it.  And for those who wish we would go away- we are to stay here whether you like it or not ;)

Wow, never thought I'd hear those two words in the same sentence Tantrum. ;)

I have to say..I too blame all the foreigners..Damn Dutch people coming over here and stealing the Scottish women and then having the balls to play in our casino's and take our money...Pot smoking-lazy arse-prostitute hunting- bald bastards the lot of 'em.

You stole a scottish lady? man oh man - i thought only easter europeans coming here to nick all the english guys. The latter statement- can't argue with that;)

I'd expect that most people in the UK are descended from immigrants.  I know my father's parents were immigrants during WWII (from Russia and Spain), and some of my mother's grand parents were from Ireland.  Immigration over the past 1,000+ years is what's made the UK what it is today (the good and the bad - I like to focus on the good).

The UK is a truly multi-cultural society.  The problem with many people's perceptions of immigrants is one of ignorance - and is often fuelled by the media (epecially the crap published in the Daily Mail).

Prejudiced views, whether they come from people in the UK who are white, black, christian, muslim, jew, atheist or whatever are unpleasant, but all too common.  A web-based forum is often going to be a platform for many to air their views from behind the safety of their own screens.  No one has the right to discriminate based on race, religion, etc., but they are allowed to air their views and state their opinions.  I'm a devout atheist, and I will argue about the harm religion causes until I'm blue in the face - but I support anyone's right to believe what they want (as long as acting on their beliefs doesn't harm others in any way).

I can't remember what my original point was now, but I'm sure that most would agree that most people on the forum are generally decent people.  The few 'bad apples' shouldn't be allowed to tarnish the rest of the people on here.

 :goodpost: Tantrum.

Part of the problem is that (even though the government are pulling the wool over your eyes due to numbers-massaging) people are realising that there is something very wrong with the economy in this country. Prices and bills are rising by far more than the actual inflation figure would have you believe. People are up to their eyeballs in debt. The demographic profile of the country is such that pensions will be completely shot to pieces in a couple of decades. In order to pay for the old, the economy needs immigrants in the short term to pay NI and tax (as they are more likely to be young, fit, healthy people of working age). So the government is quite happy to 'open the floodgates' (© Daily Mail) to young workers.

However, an influx of workers keeps wages down, so people are actually becoming worse off as wage increases lag behind the increase in the cost of goods and services. If people are worse off economically, there are those who will feel it more than most. They'll look for the reason why this is. They'll look out of their window and see another black or brown face move in across the street, put two and two together and get five, and blame the immigrants for the ills of the world.

In actual fact, for the long term social and economic good of the country, we need fewer people, not more. The only way to stave off a pensions crisis for good is to get people to keep working past the current retirement age. They can't do this if employers are able to hire immigrants to do the work cheaper. The problem is government decisions being made with the priorities of business before those of the people.

There is a massive difference between immigrants and illegal immigrants ... the two should not be confused.

Remember booder said illegal immigrants. BOODER FOR PRIME MINISTER

*waves irony detector over post*

*results inconclusive*

*gives benefit of doubt pending further data*

Just the thoughts of some on here but I shall not be mentioning any names...the italics were the clue, that the comment did not have any relation to my actual views...

OK. Quote marks may have helped me as you were effectively quoting someone else.

But I'm actually not quoting anyone  - just their perceived 'thought process'...

Maybe a nice thought  bubble then?

Dangerous road to go down. Either someone has said something, in which case it can be quoted, or they haven't, in which case it's not up to someone else to insinuate things they might say.

Nem works for the Sun..he can say whatever the hell he wants ;)

LOL @ boldie

I thought though that Nem is the Sun?

I stopped reading 'The Sun' when my IQ reached double figures. ;whistle;

Get a job ;)

what for? I have very cushy here, without having to work ;)

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lmao