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Title: U be Zeus 3
Post by: thetank on January 29, 2007, 04:17:08 PM
Bubble situation this un,  as ever $50 STT with 50/30/20 payout


Hand Start.
Seat 1 : Son0fZeus has $8,330
Seat 4 : daveyspurs has $3,110
Seat 6 : pgdjjdinc has $80
Seat 9 : B U B B L E has $6,480
B U B B L E is the dealer.
Son0fZeus posted small blind. (200)
daveyspurs posted big blind. (400)

Dealing Hole Cards.
 Seat 1 : Son0fZeus has 9c 4c
Stakes: 200/400 Current level: 6 Next level in: 4 min. 
pgdjjdinc called 80 and is All-in
B U B B L E folded.


What is your move?

Fold, call, or raise?



Title: Re: U be Zeus 3
Post by: bhoywonder on January 29, 2007, 04:22:07 PM
deploy the classic squeeze manouvre

raise to 1000..isolating the BB...u lose main pot but sidepot is bigger




or fold


lol


Title: Re: U be Zeus 3
Post by: byronkincaid on January 29, 2007, 04:23:53 PM
easy all in ain't it????


Title: Re: U be Zeus 3
Post by: doubleup on January 29, 2007, 04:30:32 PM
Hmm interesting - I suppose that it could be to our advantage to keep the short stack alive.  I would make it 1600.


Title: Re: U be Zeus 3
Post by: boldie on January 29, 2007, 04:33:51 PM
raise for me. even though I would have to show when we wouldboth be all-in I think the flatcall and check it out here as the massive CL is a negative play. The side pot (which you would get if BB folds) would also more then cover your actual bet.
If you lose the pot there's nothing lost and if you win it you get the dosh. BB will most likely fold unless he has a very good hand as most people here only think about scraping into the money.



Title: Re: U be Zeus 3
Post by: bhoywonder on January 29, 2007, 04:54:19 PM
i see the latest member is B U B B L E

looks like tank was on a recruitment drive


Title: Re: U be Zeus 3
Post by: thetank on January 29, 2007, 07:36:05 PM
The hand prompted some discussion at the table, I thought it was a relatively straight forward raise.

Both the medium stacks were capable of laydowns to stacked up nutters in future hands.

For me, it's one of those hands where you're rooting to lose the mainpot to the microstack. Only two players stood to gain from the bubble bursting, and neither of them were called Zeus.



I raised, big blind folded.

Microstack shows rags too, pot was split when two pair came on the board, but micro was eliminated the following hand.


Title: Re: U be Zeus 3
Post by: thetank on January 29, 2007, 07:39:15 PM
Q2 - You are daveyspurs, the big blind.

Hand progresses as before, Son0fZeus raises you all-in pre-flop.

What do you need to call?


Title: Re: U be Zeus 3
Post by: bhoywonder on January 29, 2007, 07:41:58 PM
aces or kings only


Title: Re: U be Zeus 3
Post by: thetank on January 29, 2007, 07:46:27 PM
Even though, to be eliminated in 4th. Zeus will need a hand that beats yours, but still loses to the micro. Also, you think his range may be as wide as any two cards.

You're going to pass QQ here?


Title: Re: U be Zeus 3
Post by: N_Baldo on January 29, 2007, 08:29:28 PM
Ax, Kx suited, and any pocket pair.... Apart from micro stack, I am in the hotseat to gamble arent I with less then half of chip leader no 2 stack.


Title: Re: U be Zeus 3
Post by: byronkincaid on January 29, 2007, 09:16:46 PM
it's correct to fold AK dunno bout QQ tho.


Title: Re: U be Zeus 3
Post by: Longy on January 30, 2007, 01:22:28 AM
Im reasonably sure this is only aa and kk (this is my pre SNGPT answer). I even think kk is closer than you would imagine here.

Lol just realised that this is situation that icm struggles with but i stick with my original answer.


Title: Re: U be Zeus 3
Post by: boldie on January 30, 2007, 09:04:07 AM
Q2 - You are daveyspurs, the big blind.

Hand progresses as before, Son0fZeus raises you all-in pre-flop.

What do you need to call?

that would be dependent on you, the player who moves all-in, ussually any pair will do for me. You're guarantueed third if shortstack doesn't take the main pot. There is no reason not to call if you hve a half decent hand and you think Zeus is at it.