Title: Cash or Tournament? Post by: taximan007 on January 31, 2007, 04:55:01 AM I would be interested in peoples thoughts on: LIVE PLAY:
Do you get more of a buzz/feeling of satisfaction from playing Cash games or tournaments? Personally i never play cash but i can imagine the adrenalin rush when involved in a "big pot" must be quite something. I know the feeling of satisfaction i get when i win a tournament, especially if i feel i have played well. Title: Re: Cash or Tournament? Post by: Royal Flush on January 31, 2007, 05:32:18 AM It depends on the buyin, usually cash though.
Title: Re: Cash or Tournament? Post by: Canuck on January 31, 2007, 07:46:37 AM Tourney for me for sure.
Title: Re: Cash or Tournament? Post by: Zebediah on January 31, 2007, 09:10:21 AM I like the whole tourney feel, as a competition and game.
The change of speed, tactics as blinds go up, bubbles approach etc. Ring games are more bread and butter for pro's etc, kind of like being permanently on the first level of a tourney. Also my biggest pet peeve in ring games is when you see a bad player get lucky and clean someone out...you are just rubbing your hands together when he decides to get up and run...grrrr, worse if the beat was against you. Title: Re: Cash or Tournament? Post by: boldie on January 31, 2007, 09:37:55 AM Easy desicion, tournament play every single time.
Title: Re: Cash or Tournament? Post by: Geo the Sarge on January 31, 2007, 10:35:29 AM Yep,
Definately tourney for me. i do enjoy the cash games and tend to do a wee bit better in them but am always on edge knowing one wrong move (or lucky hit by my opponent) can cost me a severe amount. Tourneys I feel I can relax a bit more. Most points covered in previous posts. Geo Title: Re: Cash or Tournament? Post by: Sark79 on January 31, 2007, 10:42:23 AM There must be some pros who never ever sit in a cash game? every interview and article I read about Pro players, they always say that they make their rent money,etc from playing cash games and a tournament is a bonus. Surely there must be some that only play tournaments? Do you have to be able to play cash games either online or Live to be a full time player?
Title: Re: Cash or Tournament? Post by: boldie on January 31, 2007, 10:56:07 AM There must be some pros who never ever sit in a cash game? every interview and article I read about Pro players, they always say that they make their rent money,etc from playing cash games and a tournament is a bonus. Surely there must be some that only play tournaments? Do you have to be able to play cash games either online or Live to be a full time player? I reckon those guys are talking about live games. Online you can make a living by never sitting in a cash game. But the live tourneys (the bigger ones most of the pro's that will be interviewed play) involve a pretty high buy-in + travel expenses and all that. Those tournaments also attract a fair number of runners and the variance is a lot higher (you can't simply scrape into the money to make enough money back for your travels expenses and all that.) That's why cash games seem to be soo important. Title: Re: Cash or Tournament? Post by: Sark79 on January 31, 2007, 10:58:59 AM Ok, thanks. I have often wondered about this .
Title: Re: Cash or Tournament? Post by: matt674 on January 31, 2007, 11:55:08 AM Tournaments for me - but then thats because i don't play live cash games in UK. Have tried live cash games a few times, once at the WPT at atlantis, once in Vegas during WSOP main event visit in 05 and then again in Vegas last year as part of the "blonde betting bonanza". (anywhere with plenty of american tourist fishes!! ;))
Title: Re: Cash or Tournament? Post by: boldie on January 31, 2007, 12:10:45 PM Tournaments for me - but then thats because i don't play live cash games in UK. Have tried live cash games a few times, once at the WPT at atlantis, once in Vegas during WSOP main event visit in 05 and then again in Vegas last year as part of the "blonde betting bonanza". (anywhere with plenty of american tourist fishes!! ;)) OI!..what's with the ugly wolve in your avatar? Title: Re: Cash or Tournament? Post by: matt674 on January 31, 2007, 01:10:37 PM Tournaments for me - but then thats because i don't play live cash games in UK. Have tried live cash games a few times, once at the WPT at atlantis, once in Vegas during WSOP main event visit in 05 and then again in Vegas last year as part of the "blonde betting bonanza". (anywhere with plenty of american tourist fishes!! ;)) OI!..what's with the ugly wolve in your avatar? Coyote squire, coyote. http://www.phoenixcoyotes.com/ ;) Title: Re: Cash or Tournament? Post by: boldie on January 31, 2007, 01:12:23 PM Tournaments for me - but then thats because i don't play live cash games in UK. Have tried live cash games a few times, once at the WPT at atlantis, once in Vegas during WSOP main event visit in 05 and then again in Vegas last year as part of the "blonde betting bonanza". (anywhere with plenty of american tourist fishes!! ;)) OI!..what's with the ugly wolve in your avatar? Coyote squire, coyote. http://www.phoenixcoyotes.com/ ;) Ice hockey?????...you are one sick monkey, aren't ya? Title: Re: Cash or Tournament? Post by: matt674 on January 31, 2007, 01:14:36 PM Its taken you 7 months and 15 days to realize that?!?!?!?!?!?! ;D
Title: Re: Cash or Tournament? Post by: boldie on January 31, 2007, 01:16:55 PM Its taken you 7 months and 15 days to realize that?!?!?!?!?!?! ;D but ICEHOCKEY????...It's not even a proper sport! and there's nothing to watch as you can't see the puck! and it's cold! Title: Re: Cash or Tournament? Post by: matt674 on January 31, 2007, 01:29:18 PM Its taken you 7 months and 15 days to realize that?!?!?!?!?!?! ;D but ICEHOCKEY????...It's not even a proper sport! and there's nothing to watch as you can't see the puck! and it's cold! Not that cold in the stadium itself - must confess that poor monkey balance means i've never been on the ice itself. Its a lot easier to keep track of the puck watching a live game provided you havent got a 23 stone brute continually jumping up and down in front of you and once you get used to it on tv it isnt too hard there either :) If you think ice hockey is obscure then i won't mention that i used to play crown green bowls at county level when i was a wee nipper monkey ;) Title: Re: Cash or Tournament? Post by: boldie on January 31, 2007, 01:32:10 PM Its taken you 7 months and 15 days to realize that?!?!?!?!?!?! ;D but ICEHOCKEY????...It's not even a proper sport! and there's nothing to watch as you can't see the puck! and it's cold! Not that cold in the stadium itself - must confess that poor monkey balance means i've never been on the ice itself. Its a lot easier to keep track of the puck watching a live game provided you havent got a 23 stone brute continually jumping up and down in front of you and once you get used to it on tv it isnt too hard there either :) If you think ice hockey is obscure then i won't mention that i used to play crown green bowls at county level when i was a wee nipper monkey ;) a monkey playing bowls...now that I'd wants to see! Title: Re: Cash or Tournament? Post by: matt674 on January 31, 2007, 01:37:24 PM lol, its been a few years (about 15 to be honest) but i think i still have my Tommy Taylor 2-10's in the attic somewhere. whether the back would take the strain nowadays i'm not sure though - i'm getting on a bit now!! ;)
Title: Re: Cash or Tournament? Post by: TightPaulFolds on January 31, 2007, 01:43:51 PM Its taken you 7 months and 15 days to realize that?!?!?!?!?!?! ;D but ICEHOCKEY????...It's not even a proper sport! and there's nothing to watch as you can't see the puck! and it's cold! As for tourn v cash, in big MTTs you can invest a lot of time for little or no result at times. You only normally invest a fixed amount of money, however. In cash games you can lose a LOT in a short period. Tournaments are normally far more friendly, it's more of a sport. Cash games can be quite dehumanising sometimes, someone out to take you for all you have and you the same. I read a thread on a forum about big cash player losses, some are around 12-30 thousand US$ on their worst days. That's a lot of money. Doesn't even cost that to buy into the WSOP main event... Title: Re: Cash or Tournament? Post by: BrumBilly on January 31, 2007, 02:16:30 PM Cash games for me. Much more enjoyable and more profitable.
Title: Re: Cash or Tournament? Post by: Longines on January 31, 2007, 03:06:18 PM Hmmm, good question.
Having only recently started playing live, I still really enjoy both disciplines but if I had to choose then the banter and pick-up--the-chair-with-no-hands situations delivered by cash hands probably shades it. Title: Re: Cash or Tournament? Post by: matt674 on January 31, 2007, 03:11:55 PM Hmmm, good question. Having only recently started playing live, I still really enjoy both disciplines but if I had to choose then the banter and pick-up--the-chair-with-no-hands situations delivered by cash hands probably shades it. You play poker with Wil McCarthy?!?!? COOL - can he really make things levitate? Title: Re: Cash or Tournament? Post by: boldie on January 31, 2007, 03:22:29 PM Hmmm, good question. Having only recently started playing live, I still really enjoy both disciplines but if I had to choose then the banter and pick-up--the-chair-with-no-hands situations delivered by cash hands probably shades it. You play poker with Wil McCarthy?!?!? COOL - can he really make things levitate? Title: Re: Cash or Tournament? Post by: matt674 on January 31, 2007, 03:26:38 PM rotflmfao but shouldn't you be somewhere else earning diaper money?..back to work monkeyboy! yes, but the boss left at lunchtime and wont be back til monday - provided everything is done when he returns (and me being a quick, super-efficient monkey it will be of course!) then i'm on flexitime ;D p.s. pot meet kettle ;slavedriver; Title: Re: Cash or Tournament? Post by: boldie on January 31, 2007, 03:40:58 PM rotflmfao but shouldn't you be somewhere else earning diaper money?..back to work monkeyboy! yes, but the boss left at lunchtime and wont be back til monday - provided everything is done when he returns (and me being a quick, super-efficient monkey it will be of course!) then i'm on flexitime ;D p.s. pot meet kettle ;slavedriver; hehehee are you kidding me...I've played for 5 hours today and am fed up now...had a little nap and am now preparing for some evening games :) Title: Re: Cash or Tournament? Post by: johnbhoy76 on January 31, 2007, 07:15:53 PM I prefer tourneys to cash
I am much more prone to "tilt" in cash games For example if I have $100 dollars and some clown busts me down to say $30. I get frustrated and start to chase the $70 dollars the end result is that I usually loose the remaining $30. Now if the same thing happens to me in a tournament and I go from 10,000 to 3,000 chips on a bad beat then I know what I need to do. There is a logical strategy which involves no emotion. i.e what are the blinds? what is my 'M' etc.... and then it is just a case of picking your spot in order to get back in the game. In short I just play better in tournaments Title: Re: Cash or Tournament? Post by: Chili on January 31, 2007, 08:30:02 PM There must be some pros who never ever sit in a cash game? every interview and article I read about Pro players, they always say that they make their rent money,etc from playing cash games and a tournament is a bonus. Surely there must be some that only play tournaments? Do you have to be able to play cash games either online or Live to be a full time player? I am full time, but i never play cash online! After playing tournaments for years and then trying to learn the discipline of cash - I struggled. I survive with out it BUT I do enjoy to play some live cash. I will do it for fun rather than a necessity and get my ass kicked sometimes. I think you gotta really work on what you are good at and minimise what you suck at, even if it is a laugh sometimes!! Title: Re: Cash or Tournament? Post by: NoflopsHomer on January 31, 2007, 08:34:38 PM There must be some pros who never ever sit in a cash game? every interview and article I read about Pro players, they always say that they make their rent money,etc from playing cash games and a tournament is a bonus. Surely there must be some that only play tournaments? Do you have to be able to play cash games either online or Live to be a full time player? I am full time, but i never play cash online! After playing tournaments for years and then trying to learn the discipline of cash - I struggled. I survive with out it BUT I do enjoy to play some live cash. I will do it for fun rather than a necessity and get my ass kicked sometimes. I think you gotta really work on what you are good at and minimise what you suck at, even if it is a laugh sometimes!! So more cash games in Stoke then? ;) Title: Re: Cash or Tournament? Post by: Chili on January 31, 2007, 09:00:14 PM There must be some pros who never ever sit in a cash game? every interview and article I read about Pro players, they always say that they make their rent money,etc from playing cash games and a tournament is a bonus. Surely there must be some that only play tournaments? Do you have to be able to play cash games either online or Live to be a full time player? I am full time, but i never play cash online! After playing tournaments for years and then trying to learn the discipline of cash - I struggled. I survive with out it BUT I do enjoy to play some live cash. I will do it for fun rather than a necessity and get my ass kicked sometimes. I think you gotta really work on what you are good at and minimise what you suck at, even if it is a laugh sometimes!! So more cash games in Stoke then? ;) Now THAT was fun! Students and drunk beginners - corking combination. Title: Re: Cash or Tournament? Post by: Canuck on January 31, 2007, 10:41:42 PM Its taken you 7 months and 15 days to realize that?!?!?!?!?!?! ;D but ICEHOCKEY????...It's not even a proper sport! and there's nothing to watch as you can't see the puck! and it's cold! You have just made an enemy for life ;tracet; ;grr; :redcard: ;tracet; ;grr; :redcard: ;grr; ;tracet; :redcard: ;grr; ;tracet; Title: Re: Cash or Tournament? Post by: boldie on February 01, 2007, 09:08:52 AM Its taken you 7 months and 15 days to realize that?!?!?!?!?!?! ;D but ICEHOCKEY????...It's not even a proper sport! and there's nothing to watch as you can't see the puck! and it's cold! You have just made an enemy for life ;tracet; ;grr; :redcard: ;tracet; ;grr; :redcard: ;grr; ;tracet; :redcard: ;grr; ;tracet; lol, So that means you'll be playing Celine Dion and Brian Adams records at me loudly? come to think of it....yikes. |