Title: England Squad To Face Spain Post by: The Baron on February 02, 2007, 04:38:22 PM Includes Gareth Barry, Jonathan Woodgate and Joey Barton.
Finally Barton gets his call up. After his comments after the WC about Gerrard and Lampard writing books will he get to settle in? Maybe his involvement is the shake up the midfielders needed to make them perform as they do for their clubs? Title: Re: England Squad To Face Spain Post by: Acidmouse on February 02, 2007, 05:04:12 PM I am glad Barry got a call up, also interesting to see if Dyer stays fit.
Title: Re: England Squad To Face Spain Post by: Dewi_cool on February 02, 2007, 05:21:13 PM If they carry on to bring in class players like this then I will be truly happy ;)
Title: Re: England Squad To Face Spain Post by: NoflopsHomer on February 02, 2007, 05:35:58 PM For selfish reasons, I'd have liked to have seen Steve Harper given a chance in goal...
Haven't been impressed with Robinson at all this season. Title: Re: England Squad To Face Spain Post by: The Baron on February 02, 2007, 05:37:43 PM For selfish reasons, I'd have liked to have seen Steve Harper given a chance in goal... Get away! What we really need is Shay Given to be English! Title: Re: England Squad To Face Spain Post by: Nem on February 02, 2007, 05:52:24 PM I am glad Barry got a call up, also interesting to see if Dyer stays fit. Barry brings absolutely nothing to the team or squad. Title: Re: England Squad To Face Spain Post by: Jim-D on February 02, 2007, 06:17:11 PM Hargreaves? Aint played for months after breaking his bloody leg
P Neville? rotflmfao Jenas? What do people really see in him to keep picking him? Really disapointed Nolan and Sidwell havent been given a chance as they are having superb seasons unlike Jenas, Neville and Hargreaves. Also Huddlestone is playing well at the moment and would of been good to see if he could step up. Title: Re: England Squad To Face Spain Post by: The Baron on February 02, 2007, 06:53:03 PM Hargreaves is world class IMO, once he's fit he should be a regular.
Wasn't Nolan thinking of playing for Ireland a while back? Title: Re: England Squad To Face Spain Post by: Nem on February 02, 2007, 06:59:00 PM Hargreaves is world class IMO, once he's fit he should be a regular. Wasn't Nolan thinking of playing for Ireland a while back? LOL Before the world cup and the injuries of a few of the Bayern first teamers - he was being offered to clubs for £7million! Title: Re: England Squad To Face Spain Post by: bobby1 on February 02, 2007, 07:00:21 PM Joey Bartons comments were spot on, instead of meeting ghost writers and publicist's the 'world class'??? midfielders should have been concentrating on football.
Title: Re: England Squad To Face Spain Post by: The Baron on February 02, 2007, 07:05:57 PM Hargreaves is world class IMO, once he's fit he should be a regular. Wasn't Nolan thinking of playing for Ireland a while back? LOL Before the world cup and the injuries of a few of the Bayern first teamers - he was being offered to clubs for £7million! Wouldn't have happened under Hitzfeld. Anyone who can be the lynchpin in a European Cup winning Bayern midfield at 20 is a shade better than the average Joe. Title: Re: England Squad To Face Spain Post by: Nem on February 02, 2007, 07:11:50 PM Hargreaves is world class IMO, once he's fit he should be a regular. Wasn't Nolan thinking of playing for Ireland a while back? LOL Before the world cup and the injuries of a few of the Bayern first teamers - he was being offered to clubs for £7million! Wouldn't have happened under Hitzfeld. Anyone who can be the lynchpin in a European Cup winning Bayern midfield at 20 is a shade better than the average Joe. Owen Hargreaves moved at the age of sixteen from Calgary Foothills to FC Bayern Munich on 1 July 1997. Hargreaves played in the Under-19 team for two and a half years before spending six months with the Amateur team. Whilst with the Under 19s the team reached the Final of the German Championship in 1998. They lost in the Final to Borussia Dortmund, but only after a penalty shoot-out in Dortmund’s Rote-Erde Stadium. On August 12, 2000, Hargreaves played in his first Bundesliga match, making an appearance as a substitute for Carsten Jancker in the 83rd minute. His first start came against SpVgg Unterhaching on September 16 of the same year. That season proved to be a triumphant one for Bayern Munich; the club were Bundesliga champions and also claimed the Champions League crown. Hargreaves's performances in the Champions League semi final against Real Madrid put him in the international spotlight as he showed he was capable of holding his own against the likes of Roberto Carlos and Luís Figo. In the 2001/2002 season Hargreaves established himself as a first team regular, making 46 appearances in all. In spite of setbacks for the club in the form of a third place finish in the Bundesliga, a quarter final appearance in the Champions League and a Cup defeat by Schalke 04, the season proved to be a decisive one for Hargreaves as he emerged as a key player of the team. 2002/2003 saw Hargreaves celebrate another domestic success as Bayern won the Bundesliga title and the DFB Cup. On January 26 2003, Hargreaves scored his first Bundesliga goal in the game against Borussia Mönchengladbach. Unfortunately, the season also saw him out injured on three separate occasions. In September he tore a thigh muscle, then in October a calf muscle. Towards the end of the season adductor problems meant he missed a further three weeks. He racked up 25 Bundesliga appearances, 4 Cup games and 3 matches in the Champions League. The 2003/2004 season was Hargreaves' first with Bayern without winning any silverware. After clinching the double the year before, the Munich side finished second in the Bundesliga, and were knocked out of the Champions League by Real Madrid. Hargreaves made a total of 38 appearances for the club in this season. In 2004/05 he picked up another German championship and DFB Cup. He had 27 appearances in the Bundesliga (1 goal), played in 3 Cup games (2 goals)and 8 Champions League games. In the 2005/06 season, he added another Bundesliga and Cup title. He had 15 (1 goal) league, 4 (2) cup and 3 CL appearances. His Bundesliga goal was the first of the season. In October 2005, he extended his contract at Bayern for another four years which will keep him at the club until 2010. On 16 September 2006 he came off after 24 minutes of Bayern Munich's 2-1 league defeat to Arminia Bielefeld after colliding with an opposing player and breaking the fibula in his left leg. Title: Re: England Squad To Face Spain Post by: The Baron on February 02, 2007, 07:17:19 PM Obviously Magath considered him less of a first team player than Hitzfeld.
Title: Re: England Squad To Face Spain Post by: Nem on February 02, 2007, 07:20:13 PM Obviously Magath considered him less of a first team player than Hitzfeld. That is why I do not understand why Spurs didn't buy him for £7million. He still isn't World Class though. Title: Re: England Squad To Face Spain Post by: The Baron on February 02, 2007, 07:24:28 PM Obviously Magath considered him less of a first team player than Hitzfeld. That is why I do not understand why Spurs didn't buy him for £7million. He still isn't World Class though. I think Man U could be a little bit boogered now that Hitzfeld is back. He liked Hargreaves a lot. The reason I say he's world class is coz I cant think of that many holding players better than him. (Please dont hit me with Michael "haven't proved a thing" Carrick) Title: Re: England Squad To Face Spain Post by: booder on February 02, 2007, 07:41:39 PM no Emile Heskey ? :dontask:
Title: Re: England Squad To Face Spain Post by: Nem on February 02, 2007, 07:43:56 PM no Emile Heskey ? :dontask: Surprisingly he has been excellent recently. It should be a great 'Friendly' as last time there was plenty of hostility between both sets of players. Title: Re: England Squad To Face Spain Post by: Jim-D on February 02, 2007, 08:18:05 PM Im not saying Hargreaves isnt a class player (as u united fan id really love to see him join us in the summer) but my point was he hasnt played any football at all this season and the midfielders i mentioned are playing some superb stuff and dont get a sniff of a cap (Or atleast a squad place)
Title: Re: England Squad To Face Spain Post by: The Baron on February 02, 2007, 08:29:55 PM Im not saying Hargreaves isnt a class player (as u united fan id really love to see him join us in the summer) but my point was he hasnt played any football at all this season and the midfielders i mentioned are playing some superb stuff and dont get a sniff of a cap (Or atleast a squad place) True, but some form horses have been included such as Barry (7(?) goals) and Barton (6 goals). Title: Re: England Squad To Face Spain Post by: Jim-D on February 02, 2007, 08:33:51 PM Im not saying Hargreaves isnt a class player (as u united fan id really love to see him join us in the summer) but my point was he hasnt played any football at all this season and the midfielders i mentioned are playing some superb stuff and dont get a sniff of a cap (Or atleast a squad place) True, but some form horses have been included such as Barry (7(?) goals) and Barton (6 goals). Which is obviously a step forward, But why still include players that are clearly not England standard (Jenas & P Neville) and ignore very good inform players like Nolan & Sidwell? Title: Re: England Squad To Face Spain Post by: Nem on February 02, 2007, 08:34:13 PM Im not saying Hargreaves isnt a class player (as u united fan id really love to see him join us in the summer) but my point was he hasnt played any football at all this season and the midfielders i mentioned are playing some superb stuff and dont get a sniff of a cap (Or atleast a squad place) True, but some form horses have been included such as Barry (7(?) goals) and Barton (6 goals). IMO Barton is a far superior player than Barry. Barry hasn't not played for England for 7 years ::) Title: Re: England Squad To Face Spain Post by: Triple X on February 02, 2007, 08:44:50 PM average squad but probably the right squad
the problem is we have a few very good / world class players - Ferdinand, Terry, Gerrard, Rooney, Owen (if ever fit) maybe Lampard and maybe Ashley Cole (tho hasnt had a convincing season at Chelsea). However after that its just a bunch of very average players. My biggest worry is theres no flair, skill or pace in the England team any more (other than Lennon). I think our midfield is very workmanlike but there isnt that flair that all the other countries have. Maybe its because the Premiership has too many foreigners and is too greedy but even the under 21's squad doesnt look great for the future - as good a player as David Nugent is, will he really be a Shearer or Linekar. Wheres the striker of tomorow? And dont get me started on the manager. Average squads need world class gifted managers, even if they are not English. I wish Wenger could take charge of that squad and see what he could do with it. Maccarone maybe a bit bitter but most of what he said about MCLaren in the papers today i tend to agree with. Do you guys really believe that this is the man that will put the passion, flair, and winning attitude into the England squad coz i certainly do not Title: Re: England Squad To Face Spain Post by: Nem on February 02, 2007, 08:56:16 PM A Cole and J Cole are both World Class.
L King as well! Title: Re: England Squad To Face Spain Post by: Triple X on February 02, 2007, 09:10:56 PM A Cole and J Cole are both World Class. L King as well! Nem dont believe the hype Messi, Kaka, Henry, C. Ronaldo, to name but a few are world class - Joe Cole is very good but world class, definitely not yet and who knows if he ever will be. Ledley Kng - again very good but not world class. Tho would help if he stayed fit during a season. Out of curiosity can you tell me how many Spurs games he has played the last 3 season? He seems to have a period out most seasons. Didnt he miss the back end of last season and the World Cup? Centre Backs is an area where we are very strong - with King, Dawson, Terry, Ferdinand, Woodgate, even Campbell looks to be playing well. Problem is they still look vulnerable at set pieces (all through the World Cup). Title: Re: England Squad To Face Spain Post by: Nem on February 02, 2007, 09:14:37 PM A Cole and J Cole are both World Class. L King as well! Nem dont believe the hype Messi, Kaka, Henry, C. Ronaldo, to name but a few are world class - Joe Cole is very good but world class, definitely not yet and who knows if he ever will be. Ledley Kng - again very good but not world class. Tho would help if he stayed fit during a season. Out of curiosity can you tell me how many Spurs games he has played the last 3 season? He seems to have a period out most seasons. Didnt he miss the back end of last season and the World Cup? Centre Backs is an area where we are very strong - with King, Dawson, Terry, Ferdinand, Woodgate, even Campbell looks to be playing well. Problem is they still look vulnerable at set pieces (all through the World Cup). Joe Cole is England's Ronaldinho! Sad to say that The King looks injury prone and the poor fella needs a good rest. It look like that C.Davies would be the answer, but with Gardner performing so well against Panicbuyor, I honestly feel we should stick with him. Title: Re: England Squad To Face Spain Post by: Triple X on February 02, 2007, 09:25:33 PM Gardner should have been sent off!!! Wiley bottled it!!
least it meant Jol took him off and brought on Rocha :D Title: Re: England Squad To Face Spain Post by: Nem on February 02, 2007, 09:29:28 PM Gardner should have been sent off!!! Wiley bottled it!! least it meant Jol took him off and brought on Rocha :D The ref was a disgrace in that match. Keane was moaning a lot, so every foul made against him was ignored. Terrible ref. Title: Re: England Squad To Face Spain Post by: Triple X on February 02, 2007, 09:36:44 PM is there a good ref?
for me only Poll can handles big matches Riley is incompetent, Rennie is a fool, Styles is poor Clattenburg is ok i spose who do u think is any good? Title: Re: England Squad To Face Spain Post by: Nem on February 02, 2007, 09:41:37 PM is there a good ref? for me only Poll can handles big matches Riley is incompetent, Rennie is a fool, Styles is poor Clattenburg is ok i spose who do u think is any good? Howard Webb and Graham Poll. Urinal Rennie has to be the worst - by far. Remember when he tried to make a name for himself, sending off Shearer for backing into Taylor of Villa in the last game of the season, a few seasons back. The tool got relegated to the Championship after that f-up. :D Title: Re: England Squad To Face Spain Post by: Triple X on February 02, 2007, 09:53:49 PM yeah lol that was funny! still managed to get back to the premiership. What about this season when he booked Martins for getting the ball back but coudnt find his card!
even forgetting the World Cup, Poll still makes mistakes - but make no mistake, he is the ONLY ref that can handle big games. These games are far too big for all the other refs - especially Riley. They all lose control. Only Poll has the balls to deal with it. Too many bad refs at the moment Title: Re: England Squad To Face Spain Post by: Nem on February 02, 2007, 09:57:35 PM yeah lol that was funny! still managed to get back to the premiership. What about this season when he booked Martins for getting the ball back but coudnt find his card! even forgetting the World Cup, Poll still makes mistakes - but make no mistake, he is the ONLY ref that can handle big games. These games are far too big for all the other refs - especially Riley. They all lose control. Only Poll has the balls to deal with it. Too many bad refs at the moment Poll is good. He use to be a right tool - remember when he sent off Vieira against Liverpool - absolute disgrace. Howard Webb is good. I use to like Paul Dirkin - he was a class ref! Title: Re: England Squad To Face Spain Post by: The Baron on February 02, 2007, 11:42:17 PM Howard Webb is the future.
Cant believe no one has mentioned Dean Ashton - sure to be an England regular. |