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Not seen a thread about this on here, so I thought I'd start one.

What are people's thoughts?  Are the Engish confident of a win, or do the Scots think that they'll be able to put one over an England team that hasn't been playing at all well for the last few years?

Is Wilkinson going to be the difference?  As a league (and more so as a Wigan fan) I'm excited to see Robinson back in the team, and even more excited by the prospect of seeing Farrell step out for England in the different code.  What do other think?

Get the beers lined up... :cheers:

Alexander the great is on bbc2, top Richard Burton movie.

Egg chasing is just wrong.


Although I will join in the chirping when we spank the Jocks ;)

Colchester Utd not playing today?

It might be ra-ra egg chasing, but it's England v Scotland!! 

I thought when Ashton took over it might be an exciting time. We've certainly got to blood some youngsters and start building for the next World Cup in 2011 - I believe this year's is already lost :(.

His selection of Wilkinson is certainly brave but I cannot really see how he's going to help us with the limited game time he's had especially in international rugby. I've been waiting for ages to see what Farrell can do as I've never followed RL, but again, a bit of a dubious selection at this stage.

Having said that, there'll be no-one cheering louder (in The Bull's Head at least :))

Neither country know anything about rugby, in fact William Webb Ellis was welsh kidnapped by pirates from the west wales coast( just like st patrick)  when he was young, winners of 5 nations will come from the winners of Wales Ireland tomorrow

I really want and think scotland will win!!! They have developed hugely as a team. Defensive skills are superb. Will be very close though. Come on the celts!

Wilkinson looks like he hasn't been away.  Injuries are temporary, class is permanent.

Robinson with a great finish to a great move - no better finisher.

Farrell playing a decent game at first receiver, distributing the ball well.  I expect him to make some runs in the second half and show his class.

England should score a few tries in the second half, and I wouldn't be surprised if we win by 15-20 points in the end.  Although anything can happen of course...

Cracking match so far.

England old boys all doing well. Robinson's finish was class.

COME ON ENGLAND!

If the last 10 mins of the 1st half are to go by then we will piss all over the scots in the 2nd.


Standard.

Scraping a 1-1 draw with the mighty blues at home.

Man i forgot how fantastic Wilkinson was/is,  I truely hope & pray he remains fit and healthy

They should make the 6 nations home and away every year.

thanks to lamont england have gone beyond reach  now. Ridiculuous drop onto the ball!!!

Wow u really do have to doff your cap to wilko. He really does rise to the game. Superb and already back to form.

(Dont like the red lip stick wilko is wearing though!)

Game Over

The man is a pure egg chasing genius ( wasnt a try though, but another superb conversion)

Gives cotland 2 or 3 years for the young players to develop ho and they wil have a team to be proud of. Just a shame they wont really make their mak on this years world cup. I cant fucking wait til September!!

Not only is it bad enough having to listen to two englishmen commentating and slabbering over a REASONABLE performance by wilkinson (no more than reasonable made a couple of tackles you would have thought he just sidestepped the whole of scotland) But even the video ref is overcome with joy at jonny's return and awards a try that clearly isn't  :dontask:

However the game was never in question after about 10 minutes for me. We cannot afford to lose many players especially white who is so central to our defense. But the amount of possession England were achieving meant that even their unimaginative plodding efforts at attack would eventually wear down a mediocre scotland team. I thought Ashton would have improved that back line but still far too lateral and flat (absolute basic rugby). Thought Farrel began to show glimpses of getting into the game but has been largely anonymous so far. Will probably come more into it now as game is over effectively and England should rack up the 50 point mark.

Ho hum BRING ON ITALY  

Eddie Butler is welsh by the way and as a welsh man i hate england doing well. But for anybody to say Wilkinson hasnt played a WORLD CLASS GAME is an absolute lier! He has controlled the game perfectly, has put in big hits and been involved in every point scored today. An absolute rugby genius!!!!!

Bit harsh there i thought.

wilkinson has not controlled this game he has played a reasonable stand offs role behind a dominating pack. To go overboard and say it's world class is a bit much. Harry Ellis has caused far more problems than wilkinson.

And I know Eddie Butler is welsh that was sarcasm and i apologise

LOL not bitter eh? ;)

Was TRYING to be objective not always easy you know.  :)up

It was exceptional from wilkinson. Not really because he played an excellent game but because he played an excellent international game on the back of so little club rugby.

Harry Ellis was very nippy and accomplished too.

Best performance by england for ages.

WP LADS

ok ok, i admit it ... i watched it.

Bit harsh on the commentators, they did in fact slaughter the ref and the officials for awarding the wilkinson try.

Agree with JC's comment about Ellis, great performance.

But Wilkinson is a bit special isnt he.

i understand what your saying eck. You cant judge him on one performance but i appreciate just how easy he makes his role look. Good overall performance though.
Brian moore has got a little bit better tho. Not as bad as he was. Stuart barnes has got better aswell and dewi (Dawy as they say it) Morris has got worse-idiot!

Commentary on BBC1 was shocking.  So I swtiched to the 5 Live commentary.  Far better.

An easy win, and England will have to raise their game against Ireland and France (and possibly Wales).

I think they have it in them though.  And believe me, there's more from Farrell to come. 

Defnately have to raise their game against wales kin ur right. Glad you realise that!  :)up

Maybe...

I'm not saying Wilkinson isn't special he is absolutely brilliant and I for one look forward to seeing him back to his peak. I have played Stand off for about 30 years now and he did his job today very well. He didn't put in the world class perfomance that he has in the past and I am sure he will in the future if he can stay injury free.

Sorry it's a tired joke in our Rugby Club about Eddie Butler being "English" same as Ian Robertson and  Bob Wilson ( in football) kind of thing.

I agree Kin thought Farrel was finding his feet but you could see the thought in his game that is lacking in quite a few of the backs England have used in the past.

Also don't understand why England picked the Guy from McFly at full back though.  


Definately  CMON THE CELTS   ;nanana;

As an avid Rugby League fan, and a Wigan one at that, I've seen Farrell play for over a decade.  The bloke is brilliant.  It was once said about him that he's got the brain of a back in the body of a forward.  But that's too simplistic.  His reading of the game (in League) was second to none, and his mentality and leadership was incredible.

Without doubt the best rugby player I've ever seen play.

Of course, he's very new to Union.  Whether or not he can 'shine' we'll have to wait and see, but one thing's for certain - he won't let anyone down. 

Today he distributed the ball well, but played a steady game.  His defence was good, and he didn't look like a newbie at the game (which although he might be a rookie at Union, he's been playing rugby all his life, and playing it well).  I would have liked to see him run with the ball, and show what he can do there. 

Seriously, any Union fans who haven't seen Farrell play before are in for a real treat.  Oh, and he can place kick like a metronome as well.

I enjoyed the match immensely and thought Ellis was magnificent

Wilkinson is phenomenal, teak tough big match temperament and exudes class.

Will be interesting to see how England go against a serious team like Ireland, Wales and France because Scotland couldn't match them up front

I thought I saw England's weakness as a lack of pace which might be exposed when the oppostion is getting equal amounts of ball.

I detest Eddie Butler's commentary. To provide balance, Jonathan Davies is an exceptional pundit. 

England got the job done against a scottish team lacking ideas . To me the english centre pairing look ponderous and against a more adventurous side the could be in trouble.

The best match of the tournament will be tomorrows between wales and ireland.

Not just coz im welsh but to start with a game which will decide each others fate in the 6 nations. Sounds a bit obvious but if we beat ireland we will trounce england!!! Ireland are definately the team to beat this year.

Agree completely with mickyp's post. I know they are crashers but a bit more imagination wouldnt go amiss in the centre.

Thankfully we dont have this problem in wales  ;whistle;

rotflmfao

Obviously eating my words about Wilkinson. Not brilliant but a very good performance. I'll save the superlatives until later in the comp when we've had a proper test.

Can you hear the Taffys sing ?? NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO !! ;)

it was a full on match in Cardiff wasn't it?

shame the Welsh were missing the likes of Shane Williams out wide, he might have finsihed a few of those first half opportunites


Brian O'Driscoll is another all time great. Fantastic player.

How's O'Driscoll's hamstring?  Is there any news?

He is to Ireland what Wilkinson is to England.  They won't be the same team if they are without him.

we needed mark jones instead of hal luscombe. he just cant create anything!! James hook buckled a bit and i dont know what happened in the last 5 minutes. Ireland just turned over the ball every ruck!
Havent heard anything about o'driscoll- they would have taken him off when he first went down if he had done his hammy in bad so i assume he will be there for next week.
Was one of the best games of rugby i have seen in a long time!
Did anyone watch the 7's on BBC2 before the game. Was class! Nice to not see the all blacks in the final for once!