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Another poker room in Northern  Ireland has been raided. This time JPC poker ( www.jpcpoker.com )in Magherafelt, after police arrived all dealing stopped and names and addresses of all players was taken. Entry money was returned, All I know at the min.

Mainland UK won't be far behind.

This is crazy the last club in n ireland to get raided was the cavendish club and they took everything tables,chips,cards and more importanly players entry fees suspiciously the cavendishs case ended yesterday with the owner gettin fined 3k and another 2k of juice being donated to charity (all players got there fee back) they also gave back blackjack and roulette tables but the club is not allowed to reopen.

Apparently if u have a bingo lincese u are legal to run poker tournies and alot of clubs opened up in n ireland with bingo/poker clubs and now the police still raid the club


Edit note .... emotive subject, but please mind the language. Thanks.

There is nothing in the law regarding bingo that allows poker to be played........ That was a bit of a red herring introduced by Yorkgate but its fiction.

..... if and when this happens could we ALL ring up the Chief Constable of the appropiate police force and politely tell him(or her) what a total waste of police time and money he has just presided over, and lets pray no one was attacked,mugged, raped or murdered on his streets that evening.
 A simple visit in office hours to talk over the business/law/way forward should surely be the first step.

Poker club owner is fined £3,000 
 
The owner of a Belfast poker club, raided by police a year ago, has been fined £3,000 after being convicted of breaking betting and gambling laws.
A magistrate ordered that £2,000 seized by police should be given to charity.

Sean Murphy, who runs the Cavendish Club on Corporation Street, accepted he had broken the law but called for new regulations to allow poker in NI.

But a Crown lawyer told the city's magistrates court police hoped this was the "first of many" such prosecutions.
 

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This is where the Northern Ireland Poker Championships are supposed to be being held in about 5 weeks time!
Wonder what will happen?
First Deauville now Ulster, not having much luck picking my tourneys! lol

What fantastic reasoning!

OMG  This is the local club i play in.  Was a great friendly place to play but after the hearing about the cavendish its no surprise.  Sick

Following the Gutshot ruling (subject to Appeal) one has to assume that the GC, charged with creating a safe & controlled gaming environment by the government, has said to the various Police Authorities/Forces across the UK - "OK, now that's clarified the position, you know the Law, we expect you to uphold it - that is, after all, your job".

I am at a loss to imagine what other course of action they could possibly follow. That's not to say I think the Law is either right, or wrong, but if the Law is there, the Police are obliged to enforce it. It's wrong, no matter how much some folks detest the Police (one has to wonder why), to place even an iota of fault or blame at the door of the Police. They don't make the Laws, they just enforce them.

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Is society any better off as a result of these prosecutions?

The law in Northern Ireland is different from the rest of the UK. The laws and regulations are made and enforced locally.

The Gutshot case has no bearing on raids that take place in Belfast, and the GC has no powers there.

That is correct, my apologies if I phrased my Post such that it suggested otherwise. I was referring to "Mainland UK", or more specifically, England, Scotland & Wales.

Miss Reid believes you.  :)

She's never far from my side. I love that girl.

It will be.

How?

I would argue that we can't just pick what laws we like, and only choose to obey them.

...but that's what we all do anyway.

ok so why doesn't somebody put forward a petition to government asking them to change the gambling legistlations eg poker room license £5k to run and can charge a rake??

i'm sure all the poker forums together united could get a lot of signatures to be passed thru parliament

just an idea

the local constable has been reading up on the recent law changes, and whilst the gaming laws are different in northern ireland, ie bookies cant open on a sunday  it seems he has used an interpretation of the law to stop the club operating the casino under their bingo licence , the club is covered for small ante betting and in their eyes doesnt need a seperate licence .

they are seeing their barrister today who is confident they can reopen the casino / poker , but as we all know it can be a long and winding road . good luck to the lads at margafelt im personaly gutted for them , they were really trying to make an impact in the poker world at a decent level.

good luk fellas   

What about meeting all the regulations?



 ::)

Just put it on that new online petition the government site...

I vote flushy to take the petition to parliament after he sussed out all the regulations ;)

I vote we leave things to the GC to sort out! And in the meantime shut down all the illegal poker clubs

But that just puts things back into casinos hands so less choice, less clubs and more poker going underground

The sensible idea would be either the GC to sort out an actual poker license not make clubs pay for a casino licence to run a poker room and charge a sensible figure, or somebody start off a petition to get the government listening.

Ok it may not work but it will get the suits listening to people who care passionately about what they believe in and might start the wheels of motion

It would make a better case if the people asked the government to look into it rather than just operate illegally.

If people want to change the law then lobby. you can't just decide to ignore the laws you don't like. We're all full of admiration for Rob Yong for what he's doing. people without his means and more importantly his astounding drive go the other route.

me and flushy agreeing is disconcerting  ;)

thats what i'm trying to say it needs a petition doing so they start listening to the minions

So that's why it's so cold out...

Note to Flushy
Under the existing 1985 law in N. Ireland, we are allowed to play for a maximum of £4, yes four pounds, with a max rake to the house of 60 pence. There are no legal casinos and no gaming board. Are these the regulations you want us to meet?

Hi headcase :D

I would hope a casino group starts lobbying for change then!

The casinos can do whatever. All we poker players want is somewhere local to play without being hassled by the police. Unfortunately, in this backward province, this doesn't seem possible at the minute. Ah well, back to the internet.
Also back to Walsall next week. Maybe me and Flushy can have a re-match!

Good stuff, will see you then! Lets hope its HU this time!

Jcp poker club magherafelt reopened again last nite for business!

Great news