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9-max Seat #1 is the button
Seat 1: Flashybadger (8595 in chips)
Seat 2: HiimRLx (21087 in chips)
Seat 3: Deadly king (12582 in chips)
Seat 4: mrose357 (22035 in chips)
Seat 5: kinboshi (6041 in chips)
Seat 6: AnnaBella04 (16716 in chips)
Seat 7: BHoopz (17040 in chips)
Seat 8: lucci24 (2840 in chips)
Flashybadger: posts the ante 50
HiimRLx: posts the ante 50
Deadly king: posts the ante 50
mrose357: posts the ante 50
kinboshi: posts the ante 50
AnnaBella04: posts the ante 50
BHoopz: posts the ante 50
lucci24: posts the ante 50
HiimRLx: posts small blind 300
Deadly king: posts big blind 600
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to kinboshi [6d Ad]
mrose357: folds
kinboshi: ?


29 left in a Sunday million sat.  11 seats on offer. 

I'm well down the pecking order and the average stack is something like 17,500.

What do I do?

I fold.

Any raise is pot committing yourself and any hand you get tangled with has you dominated ie AK or in a lot of trouble ie 99 TT.

In a sat you only have to stay alive, win one hand per orbit ans stay afloat. Wait for a better hand.

pass, there is nothing else you can do here.

I agree, in this stage of a sat, with that kind of stack, I'm starting to play push or fold poker before the stage I might do in a regular comp.

Your hand in that postion warrants a fold. It's in such bad shape against anything that calls it, and too many people to get through. Perhaps not such a bad push in LP if the pot is open, but I'm dropping it like a bad habit UTG.

yep it's a fold in that position..you're not that desperate yet.

Thanks fellas.

What about the following (from the same position):

A7
A8
A9
AT
AJ
AQ
AK

?

A7-A9 are folds for me. A10 is marginal with the ante being in place, flick a coin. AJ-AK im shoving.

In  the case af AK-AQ I raise pre-flop to 1800/2000. and call if someone sticks me all in. I'd just about be at the stage that I do want a double up so won't be pushed off the hand. But raising pre-flop instead of just pushing suggests strenght more than pushing does so people might be more tempted to fold small pairs whereas they would call a shove.
Other people might also consider their A10 to be worth a push with and stick me all in so the odds of getting reraised by a weaker hand by a more desperate player are bigger with a raise like that and a not so desperate player might fold his small pairs and that's what I am looking for.

Much appreciated again.  As Columbo would say, "Just one more question..."

What about pocket pairs?  Same position:

22
33
44
55
66
77
88
99
TT
JJ
QQ
KK
AA

(unsuited...;D)

Pocket pairs are trickier here and a lot depends on whether the table has been letting people get away with limping here (though they shouldn't they often do)

Limp with anything upto 6's or 7's hope to hit a set (or incase someone who's really desperate for chips pushes in which case you can call)

Push with 8's upto jacks

play AA/KK/QQ like I suggested playing AQ/AK (raise upto 2k ish and ofcourse call everything).

A lot depends on how the players have been playing. A sattelite is all about getting a seat so if you don't feel like limping with a small pair and there are plenty shortstacks around you you can also easily fold them. As long as you pick up enough blinds you'll be fine. You don't have to win the tourney afterall.

edit* just to say this is roughly how I play the turbo sats to the million..not how a proper tourney should be played but sats (especially turbo's to the million) are not proper poker tourneys...which seems to go for most online sats actually.

:)up

This one wasn't a turbo, but I definitely agree that satellites are a different beast to other tournaments - well towards the crunch-time they are anyway.  Lots of ducking and diving.  Thye seem to be fairly decent value though.

Lots of people seem to play them very poorly.  Big stacks getting involved when they don't need to and then finding themselves back in the pack, or short-ish stacks getting all-in on marginal hands right on the bubble.

I managed to squeeze through to get a seat, although I was in 12th of 12 with about 5 times the BB in front of me.  Fortunately, two other short-stacks decided to go to war with AQ v TT pre-flop.

Now I have to decide whether to put the $T towards the Sunday Warm-up, or spread it across smaller tourneys. 

congrats on the seat. the warm up is a great tourney and well worth playing. Or you could spread it out over normal tourneys..or play more qualifiers with the T$...I love T$'s they are well worth getting.

 :o

lmao..I was waiting for that...go to bed Flushy!

Well i have no limping policy under 10bb's (tho i might break with aa or kk given the table), pocket pairs folding 22-66, 77 is table dependent for mine. Then im 88-qq im shoving, might be a bit cuter with kk and aa.

yes I would only even consider limping with under 7's if the table is letting people limp..otherwise It's a fold.

It's amazing how many people who play in these things have no idea about satellitte strategy.  So long as you finish beyond the bubble, it doesn't matter if you have $1 or $1m in chips.  People seem to think you have to win the thing.

Good post MAF. I was reading through and thinking exactly the same. He has nearly 30 big blinds and absolutely no need to get involved with any hands except premiums. No one at these stages of sats will be allowed to limp so ep I would be passing almost any hand. Limping is dead money into the pot as oop you can't call a raise.

I had 10xBB, and the antes had kicked in.  Oh, and the blinds were going up in 1 minute.  So each orbit would cost 1,850.

sorry kin, my mistake. It was the average that was 17500 and not your stack.

I am still passing A6 here, but there is a much wider range that I am prepared to push with in later position in unopened pots when my stack to blind ratio is short.

Don't get me wrong Kinboshi, I wasn't having a dig at you.  I was merely agreeing with what you said about other players playing these sats wrong.

I see that there's no way you would have folded into a seat from your position, but you need to wait for a better hand and opportunity to do so.   I also would have folded this also.

Congrats on winning a seat BTW.