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Title: opinions ?
Post by: sweet potata! on February 13, 2007, 09:52:12 PM
CALL or FOLD ?  ? ? AM i priced in ? considering the chipstacks and also the likelyhood that i am dominated , should i be calling this or passing ?



Seat 1:HERO (18170 in chips)
Seat 2: MrWhite (51130 in chips)
Seat 3: techunik (22360 in chips)
Seat 4: Dchaser (8505 in chips)
Seat 5: misch38 (35701 in chips)
Seat 6: azakas10 (12157 in chips)
Seat 7: J-C AA (20654 in chips)
Seat 8: McG_1 (9515 in chips)
Seat 9: Quan691 (7659 in chips)
HERO: posts the ante 75
MrWhite: posts the ante 75
techunik: posts the ante 75
Dchaser: posts the ante 75
misch38: posts the ante 75
azakas10: posts the ante 75
J-C AA: posts the ante 75
McG_1: posts the ante 75
Quan691: posts the ante 75
Dchaser: posts small blind 600
misch38: posts big blind 1200
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to HERO [ 8c   Ahrt]
azakas10: folds
J-C AA: folds
McG_1: folds
Quan691: folds
HERO: raises 1800 to 3000
MrWhite: folds
techunik: folds
Dchaser: raises 5430 to 8430 and is all-in
misch38: folds


Title: Re: opinions ?
Post by: temp0r on February 13, 2007, 10:06:04 PM
very marginal. how far off the money are you ect? any read?


Title: Re: opinions ?
Post by: sweet potata! on February 13, 2007, 10:26:20 PM
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very marginal. how far off the money are you ect? any read?

It was paying top 27  and there was roughly 40 left       $200 for 27th and $7,800 for 1st

no read ....he must be fairly sure ill be calling , so im assuming he wasnt "making a move "


Title: Re: opinions ?
Post by: temp0r on February 13, 2007, 10:55:22 PM
i wouldn't be raising at that stage of a tournament with such a hand. if you fold you still have a decent stack left. whereas if you call and lose. like i'm pretty sure you would be. you have a mere survivalist stack. it depends what you want out of the tournament. because you've raised i'm guessing you're in there for a final table spot. in which case take the gamble and pray for a small pair.


Title: Re: opinions ?
Post by: sweet potata! on February 15, 2007, 05:55:38 PM
Ok between me and u tempor , as it seems nobody else gives a rats ass !

I ended up calling i thought it was v v close , but decided that with 9k back if i lost i could still do some damage , he flipped over QQ and held up !

AS u said it prob depends on what u want out of the tourney at that stage i was looking to gather some chips and make a push for the ft so it was JUST about a call for me

On the plus side i did manage to still eek my way to the final table eventually busting 8th , i havent got 50p on me so i wont mention the hands involved ;) ... it was a 3outer tht beat me and i woulda been 3rd in chips if i held , so i was close enough, and it possibly proves i had enough to make a fightback after a looooose call


Title: Re: opinions ?
Post by: SupaMonkey on February 15, 2007, 08:40:18 PM
Nice avatar btw.


Title: Re: opinions ?
Post by: boldie on February 15, 2007, 08:52:24 PM
i wouldn't be raising at that stage of a tournament with such a hand. if you fold you still have a decent stack left. whereas if you call and lose. like i'm pretty sure you would be. you have a mere survivalist stack. it depends what you want out of the tournament. because you've raised i'm guessing you're in there for a final table spot. in which case take the gamble and pray for a small pair.

Good post. You can make moves like this but only when you're closer to the bubble and people tighten up.


Title: Re: opinions ?
Post by: sweet potata! on February 16, 2007, 02:10:59 AM
Nice avatar btw.


Tyvm


Title: Re: opinions ?
Post by: NoflopsHomer on February 16, 2007, 04:32:30 AM
I'd pass preflop, but I'd call here, you're pretty much a pushbot whether you pass or call unless you call and win.


Title: Re: opinions ?
Post by: JungleCat03 on February 16, 2007, 09:53:47 AM
The sbs only got 7 BBs so his push doesn't necessarily mean you're dominated as he will probably be pushing any pocket pair and things like KQ.

Even when you're dominated, you're getting well over 2-1, making a call +ev in straight equity terms and the difference between 15k or 10k isn't massive so I would take the positive gamble and call.



Title: Re: opinions ?
Post by: AlexMartin on February 19, 2007, 03:20:06 AM
Call, deffo +EV play against his range and ur pot odds.