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Hi there,

I'm just starting out at the moment and trawling the interweb doing as much reading as possible.

There seems to be an awful lot talk about bots. I've read the recent topic on bots in here but wanted to ask what you guys think about it

Just how prevalent is it?
Is is better to play tournaments to avoid them?
Is there anything the sites can do about it?

All input will be gratefully received

My advice for what it's worth, play the big, well known sites and don't worry about it

It could be the death of Fixed Limit Poker, but you cannot teach a bot to bluff or play no limit Poker, maybe in 20 years you might be able to;D

Thanks,

That's definately the plan - just a little disconcerting to read so much about bots being good for targeting 'fish' such as myself. Better get good quickly!!

most of the bigger sites are way ahead of detecting bots than they let on very few upgraded bots last on the poker servers for more than a few minutes

And where have you been, have you brought a note?

got 10 days off been here just not posting as i aint been playing or thinking poker

10 days off?

No posting?

No poker?

wtf are you on about?

In fact, what are you on?

i was suppose to be having 10 days off it aint gone so well so far as i am nearly finished the 10 days lol

10 days off, why?

and why 10 days?

I should have been a  /:-|

cause a week was 2 short and 2 weeks too long

plus my folks are away to dunhill cup at weekened so i want to be playing a 72 hour straight shift

I have decided to stop trying to get any sense out of you, you are obviously quite mad  >:?

Programs have already been written that use artificial intelligence. These bots can "Learn" how an opponent plays poker meaning they can bluff and they can play no limit holdem. Remember a Program can have an extremely large memory and how it will work is that it will start out with a basic algorithm, like a poker "A" game, from there it will store exactly how individuals play each hand and will learn to adapt to the style.

Pretty freaky huh!

Well if that is the case online poker isn't going to be around within 5-10 years because all the bots will take over :'( :'( :'( :'( :'(

There is no record of them being successful yet though
http://msn.foxsports.com/other/story/3772232

I think I could beat any bot by doing what I do best- playing badly. The bots allegedly play the optimum way and will struggle against creative play IMO. Kasparov did lose overall to Deep Blue but when he did win a match it was because (he admitted this) he played incorrectly. The computer didn't expect him to make the moves he made or should have made. If the bot expects you to play a certain way then don't (very similar to a real opponent).

I thought that kasparov adjusted his game to one that Deep Blue (the computer) couldn't cope (due to faults in the program) with; i.e. he was making moves to a specific plan that wasn't necessarily the optimum strategy for victory under normal conditions. If he had just played badly then I'm sure the computer would have taken care of him quite easily.

Not saying he played badly he played incorrectly. He actually set out to play not to win which the computer couldnt figure out a way to beat ( I remember reading an article somewhere years ago). Eventually he ground the computer down as he wasnt playing what would be classed as the correct moves (ie the moves the computer expected him to make). A situation arose in the end where the win just fell into place.
 I never play poker the way people expect so it would be a doddle beating a bot  :P

Yes but you just play BADLY :)    please dont abuse me ... i am getting ready to go to london ...my boys need a pro railbird :)

Wish the boys all the best from me Kev. The life of a profeshnial railbird (kevs new official job title) is a tricky one eh kev. Dont drink to much matey  ::)

Will wish them well from you mate ... cant promise about the drinking though ;)

I'm sure I read in Poker Player magazine that it WAS possible for people to use programmes that COULD see your cards. I still think it's poppycock, but it was there in black and white within an article on bots.

Any1 else read this?

Snoopy, it is possible for a hacker to get into your machine and remotely be able to see everything that is on your screen. This isn't something which is particular to poker - it's usually used to obtain passwords and banking security details etc.

The way it works is the hacker will get you to download some file, or open an email or messenger chat or something, within which will be the program which reports back on what your computer is doing.

If you take the usual security considerations when playing poker/using the net you'll be fine.

You should always make sure you have a firewall enabled on your machine. They have been known to be a bit of a pain with poker rooms as they can sometimes block your connection to them.

But yes hackers can easily get on your machine and use it as though they were sat at your computer. Machines using broadband should especially be protected as hackers prey on you to leech your bandwidth.