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played at pokernitez on Friday in wokingham in their £10 rebuy and if you take their double add on you can have a super addon making it 7000 chips for £35 makes the first 2 levels a joke

its all to build the prize pool as they advertise a £1000 first prize

has anyone come across this before

When i went to Cork about this time last year i played a double chance freezeout (though it actually was more like a 1 rebuy) at the Macau club and your 2nd portion of chips was 3500 compared to the original 2500 chips, which was erm very Irish.

Great little casino they have there btw very poker orientated.

This is standard (oh, that damn word...) in Mainland Europe.

Hi Pieman,

I was there on Friday - wish I'd known there were other blonder there. I chopped that tournament when it reached HU - 160,000 chips each and the blinds were 8000-16000. To be able to guarantee a £1000 first prize in a £10 rebuy with only 44 runners, they are going to have to do stuff like offer double rebuys during the rebuy period as well as the double and super add ons at the end.

Prize pool was about £2500 from memory.

As an infrequent visitor to the area, I can thoroughly recommend Pokernitez. Friendly staff & customers and a nice location makes for an excellent poker experience.

why did i open this thread expecting it to be somebody who uses an alias of "pieman" telling Colch Kev what extra culinary delights he could be feasting upon on top of his bedtime meal?

When playing a super satellite at the Atlantis in Jan 05 for the WPT event won by John Gale they had something similar - it was a $200 rebuy and at the end you could take either an add on for $200 or double add-on for $400. Personally i wasn't too keen on this as it meant those with deep pockets stood to gain more of an advantage and had hoped that they wouldn't introduce it into tournaments over here.

Why dont they just call it a £50 freezeout and give everyone 10000 chips?  :dontask:

Because that would have saved me £75 in rebuys  ;D

Seriously, I heard Alan who runs it say that they can't get enough runners to enter a £40 freezeout - but put on a £10 rebuy and it appears to make £2000+ easy.

I don't like that add-on, but if the game is juicy, I'd still play.

I thought a supper add-on meant chips, or dessert.

Makes it easier to steal from the pot aswell as there is no way of knowing the true amount of rebuys.

Same as any rebuy tournament. Depends if they keep records of the rebuys, there is a way of knowing though ;).

I disagree, if in a normal rebuy tournament everyone gets 1000 chips for a £10 buy in or add-on and when the final table starts and there is a chip count - if the total chip count at the final table is 456,000 then you know that there were 456 buy ins and that the prize pool should be £4560.00

If you get a different value of chips for super-add ons then you cannot work it out from the chip count at the start of the final table as you dont know whether the 1000 chips came from a standard £10 buy in or as part of a 7000 chips for £35 super add on.

Good point. As long as they colour up correctly  ;whistle;

Lol, true! Though to be honest i've been brought up under the Tournament Directoring of Mr. Yogi-Bear himself so everything was always done spot on as quickly and efficiently as possible unlike our friends across the pond!

What Matt said, i am always suspicious when places do different amounts, just makes stealing easy.

I've been recently thinking of heading to Pokernitez on a Friday (every time they text me!)

How many positions paid out ? and what time did the game finish ?

They pay the final table of 9. We finished around 1.50am.

super add-ons, which are becoming increasingly popular in poker clubs, keeps everyone interested at the end of the rebuy stage of the tournament and also builds the PRIZE pool. All buy-ins are visible on the tournament manager software at Pokernitez and any poker player knows that chips in play at the final table will equate to chips in play on the software.THIS MUST MEAN THAT POKERNITEZ RUNS AN HONEST GAME AND NO STEALING EVER TAKES PLACE AS THIS WOULD SURELY KILL ANY POKER CLUB.

Of course you could just enter every 7 buyins as a super buyin, the software and chip counts would tally.

Sad, but true. It happens, & I've personally seen it on numerous occasions.

Where there is cash involved, there is always someone who.....

Be on your guard, at all times, in these situations.

Not that popular - this is the first time i've ever heard of somewhere in England who is offering it.


How? Surely all it does is give the deep pockets who sign into the tournament a bigger advantage as they can take more risks early on knowing full well that they can get 7 buy-in's after the rebuy stage has finished. If you want to build the PRIZE pool then charge them the full £70 for the 7 buy-in's


Does the software differenciate between add-on's and super add-on's? Most of the software i've seen just scans someones buy-in ticket to indicate they have had a rebuy / add-on - how do they scan it to tell the difference between an normal add-on to a super add-on?

all rebuy, add-ons and super add-ons are done in different colour and value chips
Re-buys 1000 = red
Add-ons 2000 = white
Supers 5000 = yellow

NO CONSPIRACY, NO STEALING

Super add-ons are now available in Wokingham, Reigate, Chiswick and Purley that we know of, and from September watch what the casinos do. And finaly rarely do £10 Re-buy tournies attract the deep pocket people that you are implying.

Matt said...

Not that popular - this is the first time i've ever heard of somewhere in England who is offering it.

That's because, in the UK, the GC don't presently permit it, but unlicensed venues can, of course, do as they wish, for the moment, anyway.

It may all change in September, though, but for now, it's simply not permitted in Licensed venues. It's always been the case in America & Europe though, that "super add-ons" are regularly used.

Agree or not, the GC do these things to, as they see it, to protect the players. In this particular case, with good reason, imo.

Regardless of fishy or not, it puts me off because it just makes for a more expensive game as you can't afford not to have it regardless of the chips you have.  Double add on is just a huge amount of chips to fall behind.

What he said, if you are following the law you are not allowed to do it....

As it happens i quite like the idea and i hope that the casinos can do it after Sept.


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