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make sure you don't sit and watch it but not cough up..

https://www.rednoseday.com/donation/

come on, we all win and lose more money daily than could really make a difference

Well done this man. ;iagree;

It brought tears to my eyes before when the little girl passed away due to Malaria. I had to leave the room.

I have donated.. Its a pity that one of the big sites never put up a comp where the prize would of been a money cant buy prize ...... Maybe an idea for next year..

Most of the stuff they show brings tears to my eyes, so sad.  The little girl that died could have been saved for 9p!

Just 9p

Give em' your fudging money

oh I'm glad Peers Morgan got fired, slimey sh1t that he is.

Perhaps a blonde or DTD comp would do the trick, I would deffo play a money cant buy tourney if all proceeds were donated to comic relief

My girls tonight have done a sponsored kick - a - thon

200 roundhouse kicks (100 each leg) at there kickboxing club.(in fancy dress)

They have raised between them £100.00 not a vast amount of money i know,but if everyone just did a small bit the total would be amazing.

Last time the total was up on TV it was 34 million bloody fantastic.

Great idea, nice one!!

Thats the sort of great thing that does make a difference and its lovely to see.

38 million now WTG

Put it towards the olympics........ ;frustrated;

I consider myself to be a bit of a tough guy but have no shame in saying i have cried my eyes out at times tonight. Have decided am going to donate 10% of my account tomorrow. Im no millionnaire but i think its a nice gesture and would be well up for a tourney with ALL the money going to charity!
I wish i was a millionnaire, i would have love to have rang in and took it up to 40 million-maybe one day hey!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Its 38 million, not 9 billion!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


AND now they have runied the whole night b having the mighty boosh on, WHAT A SHOWER OF SHITE!!!!!!!!!!!

It is all very sad how these poor children have to suffer. They are born to this world innocent, but why when we pledge so much does it not go to contraceptive awareness. all these people know well and good they can not provide for their children but still have more than one child, every one is entitled to have at least one child but surly  carrying on breeding must not help situations.

Sorry if i offend anyone on my veiws but that is the way i think.

It does go to contraceptive education, that was pointed out in one of the videos.

Please explain more on what you mean nun, am a bit confused.....

When ever i see these videos i see lots of poor children half starved to death, with babies hanging fron dry nipples as mothers have no source of nutrion.

but yet  they keep breeding

With all due reverence i dont think in the derserted plains of Africa they have much hope for the survival of thier race and copulation possibly with a mind to procreate is the one act of temporary galvanisation that removes them from the harsh reality of impending death.

i am quite aware of the harsh reality of impending death

Everyone wants to have someone to carry on their blood (be it infected with HIV or not) and for having nothing, no worldly possesions, monetary substance or even food then a child is the only thing they can produce. They are loving parents and probably work a heck of a lot harder to care for them than a lot of people in the developed countries do. They appreciate everything and really do have so much love to give (the females at least and most of the males)!

And it sickens me "suspected" (really happening) genocide is going on in darfur and us and the americans are doing nothing (apart from supplying the weapons of course) !!!!!

I have to dissagree with you there, not every one wants someone to carry on their blood. Maybe this is how the male population think but i certainly don'y think that way. If i were to be so unfortunate to be carrying hiv i certainly would not want to pass it on

I dont understand your point or why you've quoted my post as though to use it as a point of reference, though from what i can derive your arbitrary contention concerning generational genetics simply expands upon the nucleus of my assertion omitting insightful exposition in place of a hackneyed personal indignation.

in africa the problem is so my children die that people have moer and more children this is so that when they grow old they have solmeone to look after them

the more children they have the the higher the % that will die in childhood due to the fact they cant support them so they have more and more children so that they can insure that some will make it to adult hood to support the parents in there dotage

I used your rather insightful, informative and intriguing quote to ascertain a more structured and beneficial justification of the personification of the aforementioned usuage of sexual reproduction and transfer or reconstruction of the genetic material that underlines life itself, eg deoxyribosenucleic acid and ribosenucleic acid, as an example of procrastination and escape from an otherwise uncontrollable and unstable niche!

On the Nuns point.
I have spent a lot of years in Africa and the unfortunate truth is that the horrible scenes we see on the television only happen when the people are forced out of their homes and into refugee camps nearly always through war, rebellion, tribal conflict etc etc. Famine and disease follow.
In reality Africa is a real land of honey, everything grows easily and quickly and when the people are left alone there is more than enough to eat and to to support the communities living in these areas.
The unfortunates that suffer, have no idea when these man made catastrophes will hit, hence they could have 3 or 4 children in tow at a very inappropriate time and we see the harrowing scenes that effect us all so much.
Hope this ramble makes sense.

I think your use of the word "intriguing" to describe my post best dentoes the sociological disparity between two points that while ultimately promoting the continuation of unprotected sex in Africa diverge ferociously when confronted by their precipitative reasoning.

I dont feel that your subsequent explanation is consistant with the post in questions content, and that it was fatuous to adopt my coarsely contentious post as a felicitous platform from which to apply a unequable riposte to a post that almost pernicioucly promotes a countenance for morally transgressive intercourse uniquely to temporarily assuage a state of inherent national dejection

I agree the two posts were contrasting but to comment on the fatuous action of me to include your post in is in itself fatuous. I simply adjoined your post to show 2 reasons as to why inhabitants of the developing nations, in specific the populations of Africa continue to reproduce despite the obvious implications that may have on the offspring.

How sad to see we revert to snoberish verbal chit when at the end of the day we all want the same.......health and happiness for children

Bolt and KingPoker  :redcard: :redcard: :redcard:

Well out of order

I have been a bit outspoken in the past and am now trying to curb my late night entries but to take the mickey out of Africa and the poverty, starvation and bloodshed with fancy words is a wee bit sick IMO.

Good post Dundonian

I remeber this question came up in 2nd year Geography.
It's a fair enough question, if the continents infastructure can't support so many people. Would money spent on a campaign to sweep the country full of contraception be well spent?
 

Studies show Africans would be unlikely to use it, they all want 8/9/10 children for the following reasons.

- The extrodinary high infant mortality rate. When 2 in 10 children who makes it past birth die before their first birthday (compared to 5 in 1,000 in this country) can you reasonably expect a couple living in these kinds of conditions to stop at one child.

-They will be too weak to work properly by the age of 28, they want somebody to look after them in their old age.

- Small families are easier to exploit. There is no 999 to dial in Africa, Brothers and Sisters need to watch out for one another.


That's all I remeber, I dropped the subject after 2nd year because I didn't fancy any of the teachers. I'm sure it's all a good deal more complicated than that, but the point is there are probably many good reasons why a scheme such as that would be unsuccesful. (Else I assume, with the amount of good people who dedicate their lives to helping this continent, it would have been tried already)
Dundonian has well covered the main reason for poverty in Africa, and the harrowing pictures that reach our screens.

Apologies if any of this has already been covered by bolt pp, I just didn't have a blue clue what he was on about.

Are you sure that is their position?

I've read the posts twice now, and still don't have a clue.

 i think it is a basic god given right to reproduce and to say someone should not be allowed to bear children because they live in poverty is shocking imo. this view is fascist-like

 it is probably the only source of joy or happiness in these peoples lives to watch their offspring grow and mature .

 

Just tidy this up before i go to bed.

Neither me or bolt were taking the mick out of africa at all.

Nun asked earlier why do women in such extreme poverty and the likes continue to bring babies into that world and environment.
I argued that it is in the male genes to continue a bloodline, bolt said that they do it to take their mind off the horrible world in which they live then me and bolt went off topic i guess with him questioning why i had quoted his post on this in conjunction with mine as they were two very contrasting reasons.

And i think if anyone still thinks i am taking the piss then read my very first post in this thread and i think u wll find i havent done much laughing at the african situation tonight!!!!


 :goodpost:

The Chinese instituted the one child per family rule in 1979.
They were commies, not facists, last time I looked.

I beleive it also misrepresents her position somewhat. I read her post as pushing for a greater amount of contraception awareness and availabilty in Africa, rather than the practice of female infanticide to be introduced or anything extreme like that.

I don't think the nun can be branded a fascist (or a commie for that matter). Perhaps you just meant to say that you feel her valid opinion is a touch naiive.


Some would argue this is naiive also. They may not have Nintendo, but they do have a rich culture in Africa.

How can you argue with that

Silly thing is..Adam opened this thread to hopefully raise money for comic relief.

I hope we have all donated!!!?

Threads not just about donating, its about opening your eyes and it has produced a debate as good threads should.
People have a voice aswell not just a bank account

I dont think this thread will die just yet.

Africa is a HUGELY debatable subject as solutions and problems are so multi-factorial there can be no one answer!

I've been bandying about the word naiive a lot. I've never been to Africa, I've never studied demographics, or social politics to any high degree, and so that word is applicable to me as much as anyone else.

This came up the other day on 2+2....

http://www.hemmy.net/images/news/pulitzer.jpg

I've linked, rather than hot-linked to the photograph. Some may prefer not to see it.

A starving child is struggling to crawl to a food centre as a vulture looks on, waiting for the child to stop moving so it can get some lunch. A very famous picture, it won a pulitzer prize.

The photo journalist who took it, waited a long time (20 minutes) for the vulture to open it's wings. He believed that would have made a better shot.


Anyone not familar with this story, what are your initial thought on this?

Read back to the original post

Adam has asked people to donate...whether you do or not is your choice.

Maybe you should open another thread debating the ins and outs?

Ive certainly heard about it but never seen it.
I dont know why, as i know their procedure, but i feel really angry, angry that the photographer is simply waiting for the best shot instead of helping the poor child. I know would have. I hope he is haunted until he dies with his decision!!!

Please tell me he helped the kid

The point of the Nuns post was "Why bring a child into the world for it to die of hunger in weeks/months of birth" A very valid point and one I'm sure we can all agree with. The fact is the children will not grow up and offer no happiness to anyone only heart-break.

Getting back to the original post of Adams, as soon as I get home I will donate a days wage to Comic Relief a truly noble cause and one that holds deep feelings and emotions for us all (as this thread proves).


That photo may just generate millions of pounds in aid, so we should not be be so quick to condemn. Sometimes things have to be done for the greater good, however harrowing they may be at the time.

Journalists at the time were told not to touch famine victims as a disease precaution.
The photographer chased the bird away, but did not help the child. (Although the photo is said to have inspired millions of Americans to donate to Sudanese and African relief causes, helping thousands of other children.)

The New York times published the picture. It sparked a huge debate on the on the morality of photo journalism.

A couple of months after recieving news that his picture had won a Pulitzer prize for feature photography, the photographer commited suicide. KingPoker needn't feel too bad at his thirst for blood, the man who took the picture seemingly being of the same opinion.

Words taken and adapted mostly from wikipedia......


The Bang-Bang Club was a name primarily associated with four photographers active within the townships of South Africa during the Apartheid period. Kevin Carter (the man who went on to take the vulture pic), was one of the four main men associated with the name.

Many of the images taken by the Bang-Bang Club were transmitted and printed internationally, rarely (if ever) receiving attention within South Africa (this due to the government's strict control over the press). Publication of the images brought to the fore the reality of the oppressive Apartheid system.

Ultimately the pictures served to increase international pressure on the South African government to allow fully democratic elections.



Kevin Carter said this of his pictures taken in South Africa..

"I was appalled at what they were doing. I was appalled at what I was doing. But then people started talking about those pictures... then I felt that maybe my actions hadn't been at all bad. Being a witness to something this horrible wasn't necessarily such a bad thing to do."

Portions of Carter's suicide note read:

"I am depressed ...I am haunted by the vivid memories of killings & corpses & anger & pain ... of starving or wounded children, of trigger-happy madmen, often police, of killer executioners"


Youtube links.

Manic Street Preachers - Kevin Carter
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=T7hw5NkSPvs

Tribute to Kevin Carter
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FC7UyAN-jrY

The Unkown Toddler
Not a pleasant video to watch at all. It contains "graphic images of reality" and would certainly recieve an 18 certificate.
Not even going to link to it. Search youtube for "the unkown toddler" if you wish to watch.

there's no 'debate' involved in the giving of money, just in how it's spent, and that's not a debate for the giver.

there's some daft points been made on the thread but I'm not getting involved.

just stick some paper money in the box and try not to make it once every couple of years

38 million so far wtg

Nature is a very efficient thing, sometimes wonderful, sometimes achingly brutal. A child & a vulture, both desperate for food. What a thought-provoking picture.

A reality check if ever I saw one. Our thoughts are with you as always Maureen.

Good post Dundonian(the last one)

If you still haven't donated, please watch this report from Africa.

I'm a grown man and I'm not ashamed to say it had me in tears.....

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Xf3FJXZaYu8

That Comic Relief number again - 08457 910910

Just want to congratulate Colin and Heather TD's of CORNWALLPOKER who organised a charity poker tournament for this cause.

The event raised just over £1K. well done to everyone who supported it, players and sponsers alike.

 definitely a great idea , big pat on the back to those involved