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Even if they were a family member or friend?

No, never.

Yes every time

Regards

M

If someone is endangering the life of themselves and others, then you have to do something about it.

If they're driving drunk, take their keys off them (I've done that in the past and nearly got into a fight about it - but was thanked the next day by the fella involved).  Could you live with yourself if they killed someone?

What do you mean by dangerous driving?  Is someone driving ridiculously fast when the roads/conditions are dangerous?

You're having a giraffe.

Shop yer auntie, that'll go down well at crimbo.

drunk driver every time
driving at excessive speeds in built up area everytime
someone to fragile to drive safely i would advise against them driving till they are fit enough if they ignore me i would report

someone who does 120mph on a dual carridge way no never

If they're a friend or a family member you can have a word with them.

Keep the stormtroopers out of it.

What if they were clearly dangerous and a threat to other road users?   

I know a DD who I decided about 6 months ago never to get in a car with again.  It was raining heavily earlier and I foolishly accepted a lift with this DD. We were approaching a busy roundabout and my DD didn't even look before pulling out, there was a car coming round and we hit it. If I hadn't shouted "FFS there is a car coming" it would have been far worse and both us and the other car would have been mince. By me shouting to look out, the DD lifted slightly on the accelerator and we clipped the back of the other car instead of hitting it full on in the passenger side door.

The DD in question is known as the 'Stock Car driver' by my friends and I. 

then yes from your description he/she shouldn't be driving.

I have had a word a few times and so have others.  However, the DD becomes annoyed and blames someone else.  Earlier after we had hit the other car, I was a bit annoyed as it is rather unpleasant when your life is endangered.  I said to the DD that they were crazy for not even looking to see if anyone was coming, I got an angry and surprising response from the DD as they clearly blamed the other car for going too fast round the roundabout.

Boot the living shite out of him if need be, but never call the cops man.

If you can, yes - give him a good hiding.  But if you can't?

I understand what your saying and  particularly deplore people driving whilst intoxicated.

If i was aware of a friend or family member driving thus and had the oppoutunity to dissuade them from doing so i would of course do everything in my power, though if i was in possesion of this information without the chance to intervene theres just no way in a million years i'd report them.

Exactly   :goodpost:

riend or family hey might be but there life is no more important than some innocent person they might kill

i have reported friends for drink driving in the past i would do again in the future

i have told said friend i would report them and also told them i reported them

By the sounds of things he spends a good deal of his time wankered. If he cannae dodge a ford fiesta on a roundabout, how is he going to dodge a fist fiesta in the car park?

I would never let anyone commit a Drink Driving offence, and I would shop my family no problem. It is an outrageous thing to do in this day and age.

I pulled up next to a car at some lights last week, in the car there was 3 lads, and the driver was smoking marijuana. He was clearly out of it. I got his reg number rang the local police and gave his details in.

Driving under the influence of alchohol or drugs is a shamefull thing to do, once prosecuted they should have their names put in local papers each week. Jusr ask anyone who has ever been hurt by this, and they would all agree.

The only people who seem to think it's acceptable are the people who commit this offence and those who would take a lift off someone under the influence...

As for tanks comment - beat the Sh*t out of him. I agree, but I would end up n prison, they would get a ban. I would be worse off.....

indeed

You're not going to prison, he won't shop you, he's your pal.

Beautiful the way it works.

I 100% want to report this person, but I can't.  When we hit the car today, it could have been far worse if the DD hadn't managed to slow down in time.  There were two young Kids in the car we hit and when I saw that, I thought that this person should not be on the roads.  However, I can't report someone I am good friends with.  I will never get in a car with them again though and I told them this earlier.

where do you draw the line though when it comes to reporting a friend? A car is essentially a dangerous weapon in the hands of people like this and it should be taken away as someone will end up getting hurt and his/her own life will be ruined as well.

true , it would be ok if they just gave the DD a warning and a compulsory driving refresher course , however I wouldn't want them to get a criminal conviction.

how will you feel if next time he kills the 2 kids and ends up in jail some friend you'll have been

simple, if he drinks and drives then he isn't good enough to be my friend.

the question was would you report some one for dangerous driving.

if you lived round here youd never be of the phone .

i think when sark says DD he means dangerous driver (hint in the title) I don't think even a fictitous forum bot such as sark would be getting in a car with a drunk driver, at least i hope not..

lets put it this way

if you didnt report a dangerous driver and the next day he killed your kid or a kid of a family member or friend how guilty would you be

keep danergous drivers of the roads keep the roads safe for the innocent

 /:-|   v   ;nemesis;  =  :'(

'fist fiesta' should be in the dictionary.  Adding that one to my own vocabulary now :)

You can't buy that s**t in the shops.

Yep, DD = Dangerous Driver  :D . It is just the shortened version.   Nope, I would never get in a car with a drunk/drug driver.

the dangerous drive aspect needs to be witnessed by a copper, so if you report a dangerous driver, potentially not a lot may happen....but the Polce may still make enqs etc. If there is further evidence ie CCTV. Dangerous drive carries with it a 2year sentance.....then death by dangerous driving is 14 years. This has become a very serious social issue, which echoes with the sentances. The bottom line is.....family or friend....if they killed someone how would you feel. It has become such a morality issue....You shouldnt do it...report those that do...You could be a very good driver, wth plenty of training. But for every cause there is an effect and you cant control everything that happens. For instance, emergency response drivers, there just as accountable as everybody else.

EVERY TIME one of my step-daughters from my 1st marriage was hit by a driver speeding in a built up area (he lost control and mounted the pavemant, not drunk just reckless). Result: Both legs amputated life in a wheelchair.

That says it all....

So let me put forward a question to all of those that answered unequivocally yes...

you're in the pub with your mum for afternoon lunch during which she has 3 pints of beer and is marginally over the limit thus rendering her legally unfit to drive.

after remonstrating with her not to drive home she does so regardless, in keeping with your concern for the well being of other road users am i correct in assuming that all of you in favour of reporting a friend or family member under these circumstances would then phone up the police and inform them of your mothers actions?

I'm interested to see firstly who from the initial proponents of informing the authorities answers and secondly how veracious they are in doing so.

I'd take the keys off her if she was adamant she was going to drive.

I think the idea of reporting someone to the police put forward by many posters, is based on habitual dangerous driving, rather than on a one-off incident.  Might be wrong though.

There were at least two people who answered yes to the friend or family question before sark even outlined the specifics of the situation, also the term: "everytime" has been used by three separate posters.

So under no circumstances would you ever report them?

There is a problem here.

The police wont do anything just because people claim hes a bad driver or has DD before.

They need to catch him in the act. This causes a huge difficulty and complication.

Its the sad fact of the matter that youre gona have to wait till he has an accident which hurts himself or worse someone else and has been DD or driving like a complete prick.

yep, that's where i am.

If she slipped off before you could get the keys from her would you phone the police?

It'll have to be a hypothetical question, as I know my Mum would never drink and drive.

So, if for whatever reason she does what you've said in your question - and she slips away and drives home over the limit.  I wouldn't report her.

I might take the keys off her permanently.  I might threaten to report her.

BUT - I have friends with family that are alcoholics, and the habitually drink and drive.  My friends have reported them to the police - for their safety and the safety of others.  A tough thing to do, but the right thing ultimately.  I'd hope I'd have the balls to do the same if I was in their situation.

What if you and your mum were in the pub having lunch drinking coke all afternoon and you saw a guy have 3 pints and then go outside and drive off, would you honestly take the time to note his number plate or details and inform the police?

Me?  No.  It happens all the time - far too much to be honest.  I see it all the time, and do nothing about it.  If I saw someone threatening someone else with violence - I'd probably get involved.  So really, I guess I should get involved if someone is willingly getting behind the wheel knowing that it's dangerous and they shouldn't. 

It's a shame speed cameras can't catch drink-drivers.  It's a far bigger danger to drink and drive than it is to go 90mph on motorway on a fine day.   

I'd definitely support greater police efforts to cut down on drink driving.   

I play sport every Saturday, and after the match, back at the clubhouse, people drink several pints with the intention of driving home when they are done.  I make a point of telling them it's wrong, that it's putting them and others at risk - but if they don't listen (they generally don't), I do nothing.  Would I be doing the right thing to tell the police, and get them to watch people leaving the car park and check everyone who leaves?  To be honest, it probably would be the right thing to do.

I guess I do the spineless thing, and turn a blind eye.

If a member of my family was injured by a drink-driver, I'd be furious.  I'd want them punished, and I'd question why others were with them didn't do something to stop them from drinking and driving. 

What would you do if someone you knew was getting obviously drunk and had every intention of driving home?

Very honest post, nice one.

My answer to your question depends intrinsically on circumstance.

If someone i knew was "obviously drunk" I wouldn't let them near their car, could never report them though.

Nick his wheels and leave it on bricks. Or you could just leave it on the floor, equivalent of grounding him.

no matter who has had 3 pints and gets behind the wheel i would report them

mum, dad, wife , girlfriiend or a child of mine

i would report them no questions asked

if they think that little of me that they would ignore my requests not to drive then i would have no quarms in reporting them

Agreed.
I would speak to them first and if they ignore me I would shop them. I could live with this easier than finding out someone was killed because I did nothing.

I would have no problems reporting the mother-in-law. I've even bought her a car.

rotflmfao

I won't go into details. But i lost a member of imediate family to a dangerous driver,

I had to tell my father he'd lost his 17 year old grandaugter, and tell a tweleve year old boy he would never see his sister ever again.
 i saw the effect on about 300 people, not to mention the 1.5 million that has been spent so far sorting this out.

Not a day goes by when i don't miss her or think about her. Its approaching the 3rd aniversary, the case has beeen reopened and the driver will now go to crown court, we may well get our justice, we may not we didn't the 1st time

Some days the whole thing makes me want to give up, but life goes on some people just have to leave earlier than you expect.

I actually started poker to deal with the insomnia.

I have myself 'dealt' with a dangerous driver, some one who was proud of his driving.


So as far as i'm concerned if he's a dangerous driver, tell him and if he doesn't listen then don't associate with him in anyway, dangerous driver/drunk driver same thing in opinion, both have a disregard for life when behind the wheel.

I would try to stop them first, either it be my mum, dad or child, but if they insisted in dirving I would be straight on the phone to the Police.

If my family member hit someone and killed them, I would feel awful. Knowing that I could of stopped it, but chose not too. I coud not live with myself....

PS>>> If my mum was to have 3 pints, she would quite possiby be double the limit for women, and she would not be able to stand. HAH>> but thats my Mum..

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Was thinking more of you passing them to your mate - preferably before he kills someone.........

p.s. welcome back  :hello:

ahh, ok  :D        thanks

sark have you seen the bB4 board

your application to join the fun is way overdue

I probably won't be able to attend this event.  It is the Nebraskan Arbor Day holiday on the 28th ( planting and care of trees ).  Unfortunately BB4 clashes with this day  :D .    In all honesty, I am trying to save money right now and can't really attend.   I will definitely be at BB5 ,  one of the future BB  :)

Post of the Week Contender.

What a GREAT thread though. I'm keeping schtum!