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Title: hand ruling
Post by: Indestructable on March 21, 2007, 11:27:38 PM
Whats the rule when playing live if a player shows his hand before making a decision?


Title: Re: hand ruling
Post by: Suited_Jock on March 21, 2007, 11:28:14 PM
Dead...

If you've read super system DB talks about doing it back in the olden days ... but imho its a dead hand.


Title: Re: hand ruling
Post by: portfolio on March 21, 2007, 11:38:25 PM
generally dead  but no fixed rule.

sometimes just depends ho shouts loudest sometimes.


Title: Re: hand ruling
Post by: RichEO on March 22, 2007, 12:30:25 AM
Usually dead in a tournament, not usually dead in a cash game (I think!).


Title: Re: hand ruling
Post by: dealerFROMhell on March 22, 2007, 04:53:21 AM
If a player's facing a bet and he exposes his cards in any format in the UK (wether it be cash or tournament), unless it's a dealer error, his hand is dead.

If he's not facing a bet, then he can only call for the rest of the hand.


Title: Re: hand ruling
Post by: londonpokergirl on March 22, 2007, 10:00:53 AM
It depends if its heads up or not

If heads up then hand is live, although can only call bets ,  if more people to act then dead


Title: Re: hand ruling
Post by: dealerFROMhell on March 22, 2007, 10:57:52 AM
Errr.. It doesn't matter if you're heads-up or not.

If you expose your cards when you're facing a bet, you're a goner.


Title: Re: hand ruling
Post by: londonpokergirl on March 22, 2007, 11:03:47 AM
different rules different casinos


Title: Re: hand ruling
Post by: dealerFROMhell on March 22, 2007, 11:14:30 AM
Suppose so.

You have to laugh sometimes when you read the Poker Europa 'Ask The Director' sections. Some of the rulings they give are unbeleivable.

"As far as i'm concerned, acting out of turn isn't binding"

 >:?


Title: Re: hand ruling
Post by: Indestructable on March 22, 2007, 11:29:08 AM
My reason for asking this is that when I was on Sky Poker last night, someone emailed the question in to the show. Ed G started to answer the question and then thought he had a better idea and asked me to answer the question.  :o
I went with a reply along the lines of the trouble with poker is that there isn't really a defined set of rules that everyone is following, however in the UK (not sure if different elsewhere) you cannot disclose your hand and therefore you cannot show your hand and I would call the hand dead.
I was dreading that I had given duff info live on the telly, so grateful that my answer was generally in the right direction.
 Thanks everyone ;applause;


Title: Re: hand ruling
Post by: londonpokergirl on March 22, 2007, 12:40:03 PM
Suppose so.

You have to laugh sometimes when you read the Poker Europa 'Ask The Director' sections. Some of the rulings they give are unbeleivable.

"As far as i'm concerned, acting out of turn isn't binding"

 >:?

my rulings in there are good!!


Title: Re: hand ruling
Post by: dealerFROMhell on March 22, 2007, 01:23:21 PM
My reason for asking this is that when I was on Sky Poker last night, someone emailed the question in to the show. Ed G started to answer the question and then thought he had a better idea and asked me to answer the question.  :o
I went with a reply along the lines of the trouble with poker is that there isn't really a defined set of rules that everyone is following, however in the UK (not sure if different elsewhere) you cannot disclose your hand and therefore you cannot show your hand and I would call the hand dead.
I was dreading that I had given duff info live on the telly, so grateful that my answer was generally in the right direction.
 Thanks everyone ;applause;

Thing is, if you're talking about verbal declarations, then that's a different matter. That really does vary from place to place. It's taken as a moody in some places, but in others it's as bad as exposing your cards.


Title: Re: hand ruling
Post by: portfolio on March 22, 2007, 04:19:18 PM
verbal declarations   go  across the uk  now       where is this considered a moody nowadays??



no wonder the requests for proper rulings from the floor are on the increase!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


Title: Re: hand ruling
Post by: dealerFROMhell on March 22, 2007, 08:08:03 PM
verbal declarations   go  across the uk  now       where is this considered a moody nowadays??

Right. OK. Try that in a 5 grand pot and see if you last ten minutes with the punters.