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Title: How would you have played it?
Post by: Mokers on October 01, 2005, 07:54:48 PM
Half an hour into an MTT ($100 UK Open Sat), my chip stack is average and I'm on the BB with  7s 9s . The pot is limped twice and minimum raiseded by button; easy call for me. Flop comes  asp 4h  6s . I check and it is raised 150 (into a 425 pot). It is called by one, folded on the button and I call the 150. Turn comes  ts . I check, original raiser checks and last to act (big stack) bets 500-600. Is this a raise, call or fold? I hadn't picked up much info on the table.


I reraise minimum, hoping for call with an ace and perhaps a bare spade. He calls. I chuck in remaining 400 on river (blank), he calls and turns over Q8 of spades for a higher flush.

Should I have been able to get away from the hand? Would you have folded on turn, or smooth called (likely to be faced with a large bet for remaining 1000 chips). Any opinions appreciated.


Title: Re: How would you have played it?
Post by: AdamM on October 01, 2005, 08:05:20 PM
I don't think you HAVE to call from the BB, but it's understandable. this is the danger of calling from the blinds with this kind of hand. What are you hoping to hit, and will you havce a live draw if it comes? I'm in the habit of passing hands like that when I'm going to have to play out of position the rest of the hand.

on the turn his bet is 2/3 the pot and your raise was about 1200 into a 1500 pot with 400 back. you've pot commited yourself with a 9 high flush.  Tricky hand, and I see why you've played it how you did but I'd rather muck it pre flop


Title: Re: How would you have played it?
Post by: action man on October 03, 2005, 11:13:19 AM
the mistake you made was calling on the big blind with 79s once the flush comes you HAVE to play it or there would be no point in calling preflop!! these hands get you into trouble, id be weary with this hand on the big blind without a raise!


Title: Re: How would you have played it?
Post by: Gamblor21 on October 03, 2005, 11:23:48 AM
Play the hand with more strength... You may force the queen flush draw out!

But as the other guys said, if you play these hands its the risk you take...


Title: Re: How would you have played it?
Post by: Nem on October 03, 2005, 12:07:56 PM
You just got unlucky that someone had a higher flush than you, but like the others have said thats the risk you take.  The guy who won the hand limped in early position with Q8 suited  >:?


Title: Re: How would you have played it?
Post by: Royal Flush on October 03, 2005, 12:53:14 PM
am i the only person who agrees that 79s was an auto call?

I mean the 2 limpers are calling, so your getting 7-1. Its a must, surely!


Title: Re: How would you have played it?
Post by: AdamM on October 03, 2005, 01:01:57 PM
no, I pass
I know the odds look tempting but it's all about counting live outs and unless you hit the PERFECT flops you can never be sure you have any


Title: Re: How would you have played it?
Post by: Bongo on October 03, 2005, 01:05:21 PM
am i the only person who agrees that 79s was an auto call?

I mean the 2 limpers are calling, so your getting 7-1. Its a must, surely!

I'm with you there, against a minraise i'd call everytime.


Title: Re: How would you have played it?
Post by: Nem on October 03, 2005, 01:08:42 PM
am i the only person who agrees that 79s was an auto call?

I mean the 2 limpers are calling, so your getting 7-1. Its a must, surely!

I agree with you as well!



Title: Re: How would you have played it?
Post by: The Baron on October 03, 2005, 01:25:18 PM
Play the hand with more strength... You may force the queen flush draw out!

I'm not sure the issue is whether to call or pass pre flop. Some will and some wont. Our player here obviously would. (Personally I would)

I think the issue is once you HAVE called how to play it. As Gamblor21 says if you play it with more strength you can force the flush draw out. Especially with the check raise on the flop showing real strength.


Title: Re: How would you have played it?
Post by: Phil on October 03, 2005, 01:36:55 PM
If a guy has limped with Q8, i think its unlikely he'll pass when he makes his flush to pretty much any bet.



I would normally call there, but having been knocked out of a tournement with a 67s in my SB  (3 limpers, made up my small, flopped a flush, beat by a bigger one) I can see you're setting your self up for a tough decision and probably will think twice about it next time.

If you want to play that hand you need to pass it when it looks like its gone wrong. You've got a guy who's called on the flop and then made a big bet when the flush card comes. He then calls your reraise. I think by the river you must be beaten.

You've set yourself up for a tough decision though, which as AdamM says you could avoid.


Title: Re: How would you have played it?
Post by: Gamblor21 on October 03, 2005, 01:38:19 PM
yes i play the hand like the baron... you give yourself so much more chance to win the hand and to outplay your opponent/s on furthers streets!

Flushy i may reraise in that spot lol, its an auto call for me but we don't want everyone calling with those hands... or else they won't work aswell for us!


Title: Re: How would you have played it?
Post by: Karabiner on October 03, 2005, 01:53:00 PM
am i the only person who agrees that 79s was an auto call?

I mean the 2 limpers are calling, so your getting 7-1. Its a must, surely!

Auto-call for me too, just unlucky IMO


Title: Re: How would you have played it?
Post by: RED-DOG on October 03, 2005, 02:44:27 PM
I think we should wait for tikay, he's the expert


Title: Re: How would you have played it?
Post by: TightEnd on October 03, 2005, 02:50:28 PM
tikay would have been hit full in the face by the deck whatever he plays..... ;D


Title: Re: How would you have played it?
Post by: NoflopsHomer on October 03, 2005, 03:13:05 PM
Play it, every time.


Title: Re: How would you have played it?
Post by: matt674 on October 03, 2005, 03:52:44 PM
I'd probably call when faced with the minimum raise from the big blind given the pot odds on offer but i'd be looking to make the straight rather than the flush - once the flop has come down giving only a possible flush draw is where i would consider folding the hand after it has been raised and called on the flop. there is nothing worse than going out of a tournament chasing a dead draw....

It all depends on the styles of play of who was doing the raising and who was doing the calling as to how i would proceed after the flop and even if i did call to see the turn and river i would probably check/call on the turn and river rather than reraising.