Title: Sunday Gala Notts £100 rebuy - A Family Affair Post by: Chili on October 03, 2005, 04:05:31 PM Just a little short report from me seeing as i was well in my bed by the time the final was started at 4.15am!
The monthly £100 rebuy was on us again and had a great turnout with over 100 runners this time. Too many blondites to mention, but i'll try, Junoir, Karabiner, M Power, Jammer, Nickw are a small selection. Sorry to everyone not mentioned. I myself am doing a lot of firsts (not wins) lately with one of them being to play 2 straight live comps in a row! I started at 3pm at the Gala in the new £30 NL freezeout - came second (£520) so acted as a nice satelite for the evenings entertainment! Great tourney by the way, with 3000 chips on a 20 min clock mmmm. Now the £100, pumped up, flushed with success and praise and raring to go! I decide that careful play is not in order!! My little brain has figured out that even if i go home early its no biggy as i will not feel cheated by the lack of poker played due to the previous comp! It works initially, steal, steal, bluff, bluff, then my AA get busted by a strange call from Greek lady with 10 5 (10 on the flop), she hits third 10 and bye bye nicely stolen stack! Anyway nothing to mention after that as i think i lost about 30 mins of my life listening to bloody Keane on the ipod zzzzzzzzzzzzzz feeling really sleepy, look over to Karabiner's NEW ipod, see what he is listening to - "I am a lonesome hobo" by Bob Dylan. HAHAHAHAHA how apt!! Woke me up a bit! Rebuys finish have 1,100 (2,000 starting) so do the opposite of what i was gonna do - add on! Lots of nothing hands 30 mins after the break and i land on Uncle Peter Costa's table, last about 3 hands, enough to see Uncle showboating and gladly showing his bluffs tut tut. Works for him!! Ok, along comes my AK, shove em in and get called in about 0.3 seconds by my neighbour who announces AA before turning them over. Great timing. Bye bye chili. Not satisfied by the way, not used to getting up and having to see about 7 tables still in play!!! ;D Yes, yes did say short report!! So 2 tables left and Ash (local unofficial cardroom manager!) sits in seat 1 on Uncle Pete's table who was warned that about 10 people have previously been busted in that seat! True to form 3 hands and 5 mins later - ASH was out hehe! Sorry or thankfully, cant give any stories about final table as i was in bed but my unamed source tells me the results. It went to a chip count at 5.15am with 8 still left. 1st Junior Greg cutey (not really 22!) @ £5,000 2nd Uncle Peter (re living his previous monthly income in this comp before Vegas lured him away from us) £ under 5,000 3rd Joint 5th Uncle Kim Constantinou @ £3,000 8th DADDY and 10 % Angelo Demetriou £1,600 So it was a Sunday night family take-away, and well done everyone else in the final especially Junior!! Title: Re: Sunday Gala Notts £100 rebuy - A Family Affair Post by: TightEnd on October 03, 2005, 04:47:03 PM well done Junior
let's face it everyone, if he can win it, a blondiete road trip might be in order..... ;) Chili, I trust you were on 10% each of your extended family?? Title: Re: Sunday Gala Notts £100 rebuy - A Family Affair Post by: Junior Senior on October 03, 2005, 08:15:17 PM Nice one Chilli. - now dont go getting all these fellas jealous by calling me a cutey! - and i'm 21 not 22!!!! - now stop making out i'm older than i am or i'll tell the forum your age! - and dont think i wont ;)
Other finalists not mentioned and not part of the chilli, demetriou, costa, constantinou family tree were as follows: Faisal, Raj (chippie's mate), Richard (leary fella with a bit of a southern accent), Jake (ultimate mega rock), Ben Callinan (big fella from walsall, did well in vienna the other week), Big Jason "its there" Wong. Good comp apart from it never gets finished and nearly always ends in a chip count. Tightend - your welcome to bring yourself and any other luton value added competitors with you next month if you wish ;D Title: Re: Sunday Gala Notts £100 rebuy - A Family Affair Post by: Colchester Kev on October 03, 2005, 08:20:58 PM well done Greg, Michael and Dale must be proud ;)
Title: Re: Sunday Gala Notts £100 rebuy - A Family Affair Post by: redsimon on October 03, 2005, 08:37:40 PM Nice one Chilli. - now dont go getting all these fellas jealous by calling me a cutey! - and i'm 21 not 22!!!! - now stop making out i'm older than i am or i'll tell the forum your age! - and dont think i wont ;) Other finalists not mentioned and not part of the chilli, demetriou, costa, constantinou family tree were as follows: Faisal, Raj (chippie's mate), Richard (leary fella with a bit of a southern accent), Jake (ultimate mega rock), Ben Callinan (big fella from walsall, did well in vienna the other week), Big Jason "its there" Wong. Good comp apart from it never gets finished and nearly always ends in a chip count. Tightend - your welcome to bring yourself and any other luton value added competitors with you next month if you wish ;D nice play greg. Any thoughts from players about starting earlier? 45 minute final before chip count sounds daft in a £30K ish comp >:( Title: Re: Sunday Gala Notts £100 rebuy - A Family Affair Post by: Robert HM on October 03, 2005, 08:39:47 PM Nice one Junior
Thanks for the report Ms Chilli Title: Re: Sunday Gala Notts £100 rebuy - A Family Affair Post by: Junior Senior on October 03, 2005, 09:15:29 PM redsimon, as you asked, my thoughts herewith:
This comp has become a victim of its own success. It used to be a fantastic comp that had 60-70 runners (and that was 15-20 more than the normal monday and thursday jobbies) and produced a prize pool of around £20k. The comp has got bigger and bigger and unfortunately the structure hasn't changed to accommodate the growing numbers or players needs - in fact to acommodate dealer shortages they have also incorporated a 30 minute break after 2 hours. It is time to give the comp structure a re-think as it clearly is failing under the exisiting structure. A 5:30am finish and 40 minutes for a final table when the chip leader has 13 big blinds is simply not good enough!! What to do about it? It needs to start at around 5:30 - 6:00pm (what else is there to do on a sunday afternoon?!) and / or the rebuy period shrunk by 30 minutes to 1.5hrs and have a 15-20 minute break instead of 30. This would ensure a comp played to a finish and with a satisfactory amount of time left to play a final. there's more.... The blinds do get capped at 5,000 - 10,000 (620,000 in play) but that is still too high. - and i am told that in future comps this cap is to be removed to ensure we are forced to play rather than fold! - Please be aware this will ruin the comp and it will die!- its simple, players dont want high blinds, fast clocks and tournaments resolved by chip count or crap shoots. tuppence inserted and given forth next..................... Title: Re: Sunday Gala Notts £100 rebuy - A Family Affair Post by: Chili on October 03, 2005, 10:58:05 PM Junior - i agree with your sentiments about this comp starting earlier and although i understand about the dealer shortage i really dont like the 30 min break AT ALL. We as players are all accomodating when it comes to the many structure and time changes that are put upon us now PLEASE train some more dealers for the ever expanding success of these comps. I know Rob does a very good job at Gala and does listen but Please start the £100 comp earlier! Thanks also for filling in my many blanks!!
Oh and Junior you dont have to threaten me with age references for me to be nice to you! You only have to ask!! I dont know, you call someone cute and look what happens! Mr End, Doh! I knew i forgot something on Sunday! Only got 10% with my dad but i'm sure my Uncles will be generous and obliging! ;D Title: Re: Sunday Gala Notts £100 rebuy - A Family Affair Post by: tikay on October 04, 2005, 12:51:22 AM What a nice Mini-Report by Mr Chilli, eh?
Wanna job, girlie? Course, you'd have to do whatever I say. Title: Re: Sunday Gala Notts £100 rebuy - A Family Affair Post by: Chili on October 04, 2005, 12:59:51 AM mmm, the other way around ;D
Title: Re: Sunday Gala Notts £100 rebuy - A Family Affair Post by: tikay on October 04, 2005, 01:40:02 AM Done. Title: Re: Sunday Gala Notts £100 rebuy - A Family Affair Post by: Nightfly on October 04, 2005, 05:09:35 PM The blinds do get capped at 5,000 - 10,000 (620,000 in play) but that is still too high. - and i am told that in future comps this cap is to be removed to ensure we are forced to play rather than fold! - Please be aware this will ruin the comp and it will die!- its simple, players dont want high blinds, fast clocks and tournaments resolved by chip count or crap shoots. 5,000/10,000 is not too high for 620,000 Last Night (Monday £30) there were 450,000 points in play. Final was started at 1.45am and finished at 3.50am with the blinds at 8,000/16,000. 1st place finisher had 26 big blinds 2nd place had 3. This structure worked fine. final was a decent length started with blinds at 1500/3000 average stack was 45K = 15BB This is what is supposed to happen If everyone hangs on to their chips for dear life and moans about the unfairness of the blinds going up then the consequences are what happened on sunday. All players know the blinds are going up and you know what level they end up at. It is a level playing field and all players are affected by the same thing It is up to you to adjust your play to suit the structure. I Was appalled at what happened on Sunday night... It has not happened that badly before and I can assure you that it will NOT happen again. Title: Re: Sunday Gala Notts £100 rebuy - A Family Affair Post by: Junior Senior on October 04, 2005, 05:33:20 PM Well, i am affraid we will have to agree to disagree on the subject. We all have our opinions and thats what makes the game so interesting to debate. I still think the £100 comp would benefit from a few of the changes i suggested in my earlier post (especially the earlier start)
thanks for the reply mr Nightfly sir! ;) Title: Re: Sunday Gala Notts £100 rebuy - A Family Affair Post by: Royal Flush on October 04, 2005, 05:35:39 PM Nightfly that is right.
But do you not agree maybe making the clock quicker to start with, when no money is being decided, getting the final earlier. Then lowering the blinds so that when the important stuff is being decieded there is a little play! Title: Re: Sunday Gala Notts £100 rebuy - A Family Affair Post by: Nightfly on October 04, 2005, 05:41:46 PM I have tried for earlier starts over and over again
the answer keeps coming back a firm no! i am still trying for earlier starts and will continue to do so. I agree that the half hour break does not help matters, but it is a necessary evil. A structure for November's comp will be posted soon as this needs to be resolved for next year. December will be a £200 No Limit Re-Buy and probably will have an earlier start and a different structure. (With a likely 5000 points per re-buy(etc.) it will need one) I am working on this but it all takes (too much) time to get it sorted. Stay tuned Nightfly Title: Re: Sunday Gala Notts £100 rebuy - A Family Affair Post by: Nightfly on October 04, 2005, 05:45:22 PM But do you not agree maybe making the clock quicker to start with, when no money is being decided, getting the final earlier. Then lowering the blinds so that when the important stuff is being decieded there is a little play! This is one idea we are looking at... shortening the clock to 20 minutes until level 1000/2000 and then going back to 25 minute levels. I believe that this would be an effective measure along with shortening the re-buy period from 120 mins to 100. There should be a decent length final otherwise what is the point Nightfly Title: Re: Sunday Gala Notts £100 rebuy - A Family Affair Post by: Karabiner on October 04, 2005, 05:54:12 PM The one thing about this tourney that I find a little off-putting is that the final starts at 4.15. I agree with most of Junior's points, especially the one about shortening the rebuy period to 90 minutes. Theoretically that would offer another 30 minutes for play in the final stages. It is a real shame that Nightfly's hands are tied regarding earlier starts and smoking, to name a couple of things. Title: Re: Sunday Gala Notts £100 rebuy - A Family Affair Post by: Junior Senior on October 04, 2005, 07:54:06 PM good idea from flushy! - make the clock quicker earlier on and then slowing it down later.
the most important part of the comp is the latter stages and the final and this should be played under conditions that allow decent poker and skill to prevail. Title: Re: Sunday Gala Notts £100 rebuy - A Family Affair Post by: Royal Flush on October 04, 2005, 08:01:00 PM good idea from flushy! - make the clock quicker earlier on and then slowing it down later. the most important part of the comp is the latter stages and the final and this should be played under conditions that allow decent poker and skill to prevail. Yeah its something i have thought for a while. Why do we get all this play early, when it doesnt really matter, then a crapshot when its the final? Example, gutshot main event, we had good play all the way through day 1, day 2 comes nad it goes mad! If instead they had reduced the levels after level 5 or 6 to 30 mins, then they could have had 1hr levels on day 2 and we would have got there quicker! |