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Table "Tombstone" Seat 3 is the button.
Seat 1: -Gotcha- (£309.25 in chips)
Seat 2: bwd27 (£206.25 in chips)
Seat 3: Billy_no1 (£29 in chips)
Seat 4: Brrwwwa (£109 in chips)
Seat 5: Str8kall (£283.50 in chips)
Seat 6: LFisGood sits out
Brrwwwa: posts small blind £1
Str8kall: posts big blind £2
----- HOLE CARDS -----
dealt to -Gotcha- [7h 7c]
-Gotcha-: raises to £8
bwd27: folds
Billy_no1: folds
Brrwwwa: folds
Str8kall: calls £6
----- FLOP ----- [7s Kc Tc]
Str8kall: checks
-Gotcha-: bets £12
Str8kall: calls £12
----- TURN ----- [7s Kc Tc][Ad]
Str8kall: checks
-Gotcha-: bets £28
Str8kall: raises to £132
-Gotcha-: calls £104
----- RIVER ----- [7s Kc Tc Ad][5h]
Str8kall: bets £131.50 and is all-in
-Gotcha-: folds

villain is laggy, he said afterwards that he was on a flush draw but who knows... I so nearly pushed the turn, would def have done so if we only had 100 BBs. If you think I'm nuts how deep do you have to be to fold here?

 ;frustrated; Don't really get the theorem behind this laydown.

Q J is a possibility but id still have to call here. When youve called the £104 on the turn, youve committed yourself to the fact that you dont think he has QJ. How can you fold when the 5h rivers? What does he have that you were willing to call £132 but not £131 now. I dont understand.

I might be able to give you a fold if the action that occured on the turn hadnt taken place anywhere near as vigourously.

Not to keen on the fold mate...

Crypto £1-2 players do play crazy sometimes, this particular guy is very LAG.

I also think hes probably on a flush draw. £28 > £132 on the turn looks to me like hes trying to commit himself to something, i.e a flush draw or maybe 89. They rarely 5 x a bet with the nuts here i think. Don't you agree?

Also 2 pair is a strong possibility.

i jam turn.

Push on turn every single time. If he has TT or QJ, then it's just unlucky.

However, you absolultely have to call the river bet. He could easily have AK, if he's not bluffing.

£1-£2 sre some of the worst players on the net

for 1 many are playing there because its £s not $s and dont realise there are paying twice the rake they would on the $2-$4 table

i would proberly have gone all in on turn

i dont see the point in the fold on river with so much in pot

Ben, what happened to all you film stars? I haven't seen any of you around for a while, have you changed your names?

Surely if you're going to fold here it has to be on the turn?

I can't see the logic in calling the turn bet and not calling on the river for any card, but more so for a 'safe' card like the 5h.

If you were scared of the straight draw (in addition to the bigger sets on the flop) then it hit on the turn, so why call the bet there?  If you were scared of the flush draw then it hasn't hit on the river, so why fold now?

If it is the flush draw you're worried about then surely calling is the worst option on the turn, given that you're pretty much pot-committed to a crying call in any event (although you obviously thought otherwise).

I'm really puzzled by your play on this one.

If he's as LAGgy as you say I jam turn and get him making the mistake to call the jam

The river is a complete blank, you must have thought you were ahead on turn to call his re-raise, you weren't calling to hit a house if you think he has QJ. Given that I have to call river

instant call on river. 10 10 i dont see lag playing the hand that way. q j - turn the nuts and overbet,improbable.a rag suited clubs very likely for me,either 2 paired on turn or river.

I take it that you were playing a lot of tables, as it looks like you didn't really give the hand the thought that it deserved. 

You can play it aggresively or weak but not a bit of both.  The weak play is to check the turn and call a non scary river.  Obviously there will be those who say that is bad play.  The aggressive approach you bet the turn and are quite happy to get all the money in.

   

im thinkin he had something like a x clubs....maybe a jc or a qc, and when the ace hits he thinks hes ahead anyway. Back to the point, the rivers come the blankest of blanks if u like your hand on the turn u love it on the river. Anyway i call. But you went wit ur read, nowt wrong with that.

no comment from flushy ?              :dontask:

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