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Title: QQ festival hand
Post by: Royal Flush on April 04, 2007, 03:28:48 PM
Brighton festival last night £100 with limited rebuys:

Last 4 tables average stack is 17k, blinds 800-1600.


You have 21k and QQ UTG, you make it 4500, your image is not good, you have opened for 4500 quite a few times already this level.

Young oppo in the 3rd seat jams for 16k, he has been fairly tight but you have some idea that he knows what he is doing (he is not over nit like)

CL in the SB new to the table, big roulette player and occasional donator in the cash game flat calls the 16k!! He has just joined the table.


Pass or Play?


Title: Re: QQ festival hand
Post by: Graham C on April 04, 2007, 03:34:55 PM
I'd call, but then I do that with QQ.  I normally wish I had passed though.

I think with the CL calling, you have to call for the value.


Title: Re: QQ festival hand
Post by: booder on April 04, 2007, 03:35:33 PM



You have 21k and QQ UTG, you make it 4500, your image is not good,




 rotflmfao rotflmfao


pass for me...........smells like AK  and  AA/KK


Title: Re: QQ festival hand
Post by: JungleCat03 on April 04, 2007, 03:51:49 PM
Brighton festival last night £100 with limited rebuys:

Last 4 tables average stack is 17k, blinds 800-1600.


You have 21k and QQ UTG, you make it 4500, your image is not good as you are on your 14th cocktail, keep slurring it neverends and you have a small but noticable chunk of salmon en croute stuck between your top lip and nose from the dinner break.

Young oppo in the 3rd seat jams for 16k, he has been fairly tight but you have some idea that he knows what he is doing (he is not over nit like)

CL in the SB new to the table, big roulette player and occasional donator in the cash game flat calls the 16k!! He has just joined the table.


Pass or Play?

FYP


Title: Re: QQ festival hand
Post by: Dewi_cool on April 04, 2007, 04:15:51 PM
 ;all-in;  take it down and win event


Title: Re: QQ festival hand
Post by: temp0r on April 04, 2007, 04:29:41 PM
can you afford to fold and give the impression that when you raise you'll fold to an all-in?

i think with those blinds i shove. great opportunity to get a stack you can really go places with.


Title: Re: QQ festival hand
Post by: Ironside on April 04, 2007, 09:40:03 PM
i fold showing my QQ this time your behind but next time i raise i am sure that i will be ahead


Title: Re: QQ festival hand
Post by: Rookie (Rodney) on April 04, 2007, 10:52:55 PM
shove


Title: Re: QQ festival hand
Post by: Dewi_cool on April 04, 2007, 10:58:27 PM
;all-in;  take it down and win event


cough


Title: Re: QQ festival hand
Post by: byronkincaid on April 05, 2007, 12:53:30 AM
fold pre flop. obv


Title: Re: QQ festival hand
Post by: AlexMartin on April 05, 2007, 08:31:40 AM
NO BRAINER. If they have a better hand, unlucky. You cannie afford to pass. IMO.


Title: Re: QQ festival hand
Post by: tikay on April 05, 2007, 11:06:13 AM
NO BRAINER. If they have a better hand, unlucky. You cannie afford to pass. IMO.


....but you fold it in a Cash Game?..........


Title: Re: QQ festival hand
Post by: Karabiner on April 05, 2007, 11:11:36 AM
Tighty would not be in this position.....


Title: Re: QQ festival hand
Post by: Royal Flush on April 05, 2007, 12:30:49 PM
Ok i reasoned even the biggest mug is not going to be flat calling the 16k without AA/KK and so i passed. The pusher had TT and the caller had AK, my hand would have stood up for a 55k pot and i would have been uber CL.

Not often i make big passes, it seems every time i do i get them wrong as well.

P.S. Chirp Chirp won it anyway £5600 hollaaaaaaaa


Title: Re: QQ festival hand
Post by: AlexMartin on April 05, 2007, 08:32:45 PM
Ok i reasoned even the biggest mug is not going to be flat calling the 16k without AA/KK and so i passed. The pusher had TT and the caller had AK, my hand would have stood up for a 55k pot and i would have been uber CL.

Not often i make big passes, it seems every time i do i get them wrong as well.

P.S. Chirp Chirp won it anyway £5600 hollaaaaaaaa

So you passed a 50/50 getting 3-1?


Title: Re: QQ festival hand
Post by: Rookie (Rodney) on April 06, 2007, 12:40:28 AM
Ok i reasoned even the biggest mug is not going to be flat calling the 16k without AA/KK and so i passed. The pusher had TT and the caller had AK, my hand would have stood up for a 55k pot and i would have been uber CL.

Not often i make big passes, it seems every time i do i get them wrong as well.

P.S. Chirp Chirp won it anyway £5600 hollaaaaaaaa

Idiot.. If you would have played that hand you would have won the tourney quicker. Therefore more time to celebrate... Easy Call.


Title: Re: QQ festival hand
Post by: Royal Flush on April 06, 2007, 05:34:40 AM
Ok i reasoned even the biggest mug is not going to be flat calling the 16k without AA/KK and so i passed. The pusher had TT and the caller had AK, my hand would have stood up for a 55k pot and i would have been uber CL.

Not often i make big passes, it seems every time i do i get them wrong as well.

P.S. Chirp Chirp won it anyway £5600 hollaaaaaaaa

So you passed a 50/50 getting 3-1?

I know, what a donk i am.


Title: Re: QQ festival hand
Post by: AlexMartin on April 06, 2007, 04:35:54 PM
Hardly donkish, but you said yourself caller was a mug.


Title: Re: QQ festival hand
Post by: JungleCat03 on April 06, 2007, 04:37:08 PM
It's the kind of pass people who do 10 way chops make


Title: Re: QQ festival hand
Post by: tikay on April 06, 2007, 07:32:07 PM
It's the kind of pass people who do 10 way chops make

Ouch!


Title: Re: QQ festival hand
Post by: AlexMartin on April 07, 2007, 04:28:58 AM

Im still in shock! Its like a respected general died.
I thought you were a purebred long-ball uber lag. LBUL. Deeply saddened.

 I mean, results orientated analysis aint the way forward but hats off for making a pass and coming back.

You better be careful about making those passes common knowledge though, people will start the old re-popping bollox  ;m3boy;




Title: Re: QQ festival hand
Post by: Royal Flush on April 07, 2007, 04:53:14 AM

Im still in shock! Its like a respected general died.
I thought you were a purebred long-ball uber lag. LBUL. Deeply saddened.

 I mean, results orientated analysis aint the way forward but hats off for making a pass and coming back.

You better be careful about making those passes common knowledge though, people will start the old re-popping bollox  ;m3boy;




lol obviously i didn't show it at the table.

Passing is allowed in LBUL land, but only if you can't re-raise!


Title: Re: QQ festival hand
Post by: totalise on April 07, 2007, 04:54:34 AM
you chopped 10 ways?


Title: Re: QQ festival hand
Post by: tikay on April 07, 2007, 09:59:12 AM
you chopped 10 ways?


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