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Title: first hand of a sitngo
Post by: AgentChip109 on April 09, 2007, 01:34:42 AM
first hand of a $22 sitngo


Total number of players : 10
Seat 5: ribas28 ( 2,000 )
Seat 8: snakerroker ( 2,000 )
Seat 3: JaiKudo ( 2,000 )
Seat 7: Edgy811 ( 2,000 )
Seat 4: jbharshaw ( 2,000 )
Seat 10: kjefe81 ( 2,000 )
Seat 6: ianasher ( 2,000 )
Seat 2: oddefi ( 2,000 )
Seat 1: GKMW_Ruedy ( 2,000 )
Seat 9: jurgis85 ( 2,000 )
Trny: 32782192 Level: 1
 Blinds(20/40)
** Dealing down cards **
Dealt to Edgy811 [  Kd As ]
oddefi folds
JaiKudo is all-In  [2,000]



who calls? who folds?


Title: Re: first hand of a sitngo
Post by: maldini32 on April 09, 2007, 01:52:01 AM
fold


Title: Re: first hand of a sitngo
Post by: temp0r on April 09, 2007, 02:56:28 AM
call.


Title: Re: first hand of a sitngo
Post by: AlexMartin on April 09, 2007, 02:57:22 AM

Call


Title: Re: first hand of a sitngo
Post by: Wardonkey on April 09, 2007, 04:03:23 AM
Fold


Title: Re: first hand of a sitngo
Post by: UpTheMariners on April 09, 2007, 04:17:36 AM
fold


Title: Re: first hand of a sitngo
Post by: TheRaise on April 09, 2007, 12:01:05 PM
Call.  If he has AA then that's unlucky.  If he has KK you are a bit behind but still have the overcard.  Anything else, it's a coin flip or you are well ahead.


Title: Re: first hand of a sitngo
Post by: boldie on April 09, 2007, 02:00:35 PM
fold.


Title: Re: first hand of a sitngo
Post by: Muahahahaha on April 09, 2007, 02:24:05 PM
From a learner it looks like a simple fold.

You're behind to any pair, a long way behind to AA & KK.

In front of a crap bet.

You need to win this bet more than 50 % of the time.

How can you calculate a range of hands that will do that ?

Also, just a sideways thought.

Either he's a clever player, in which case he's double bluffing you with AA

Or he's a crap player, in which case you'll outplay him during the game anyway.  Then you can pick up his chips more safely over time.



Title: Re: first hand of a sitngo
Post by: Tragic on April 09, 2007, 02:43:13 PM
100% fold I would also pass JJ here and probably QQ unless i'd seen him before


Title: Re: first hand of a sitngo
Post by: TightEnd on April 09, 2007, 03:34:09 PM
I call and reload another $22 sng if wrong


theoretically, what is the calculation to make on the equity of having 4,000 chips after one hand, assuming you win and the increased likelihood of cashing relative to the loss of $22 if you lose??



Title: Re: first hand of a sitngo
Post by: temp0r on April 09, 2007, 03:44:57 PM
tighty has the right idea.

also its a $22 SnG on the weekend. possibly a post easter lunch drunkard. even more chance of seeing  Ks 4h turned over here. i'm never folding this. and SnGs are all i play at the moment.


Title: Re: first hand of a sitngo
Post by: AlexMartin on April 09, 2007, 03:49:42 PM
I only start to pass this when we get to $50 SnGos- And even then i stuggle :)

QQ- not in this lifetime. What are you waiting for.


Title: Re: first hand of a sitngo
Post by: AgentChip109 on April 09, 2007, 05:58:21 PM
takin into account it was $22 i decided to call and take a coinflip (which i was thinkin it had to be) and take the chance of havin 4000 chips to start wiv. i kind of just felt like callin cos it was such a stupid bet and it annoyed me.

he had  Qh Qs and a  Ks popped out on the flop to double me

a higher buy in im prob gonna fold


Title: Re: first hand of a sitngo
Post by: johnbhoy76 on April 09, 2007, 10:54:41 PM
Call.  If he has AA then that's unlucky.  If he has KK you are a bit behind but still have the overcard.  Anything else, it's a coin flip or you are well ahead.

The problem with AK is that you are very rarely "well ahead"

Even if the guy has random crap such as T8os you are only about a 65%-35% shot.

In a sitngo I fold every hand for the first 3 levels unless it's AA KK or QQ



Title: Re: first hand of a sitngo
Post by: AlexMartin on April 10, 2007, 04:13:59 AM
Call.  If he has AA then that's unlucky.  If he has KK you are a bit behind but still have the overcard.  Anything else, it's a coin flip or you are well ahead.

The problem with AK is that you are very rarely "well ahead"

Even if the guy has random crap such as T8os you are only about a 65%-35% shot.

In a sitngo I fold every hand for the first 3 levels unless it's AA KK or QQ


My god, and ppl give you action when you get a hand. What stakes?
p.s, what SnG affords you that luxury?



Title: Re: first hand of a sitngo
Post by: Royal Flush on April 10, 2007, 09:31:16 AM
Call.  If he has AA then that's unlucky.  If he has KK you are a bit behind but still have the overcard.  Anything else, it's a coin flip or you are well ahead.

The problem with AK is that you are very rarely "well ahead"

Even if the guy has random crap such as T8os you are only about a 65%-35% shot.

In a sitngo I fold every hand for the first 3 levels unless it's AA KK or QQ


My god, and ppl give you action when you get a hand. What stakes?
p.s, what SnG affords you that luxury?


I remember the days when i used to complete with JJ from the SB, what a mug i was!


Title: Re: first hand of a sitngo
Post by: thetank on April 10, 2007, 09:46:22 AM
I don't need Jaikudo to go all-in for me to fold.

AK OOP @ lvl 1  is proper wank.


Title: Re: first hand of a sitngo
Post by: johnbhoy76 on April 10, 2007, 09:46:02 PM
Call.  If he has AA then that's unlucky.  If he has KK you are a bit behind but still have the overcard.  Anything else, it's a coin flip or you are well ahead.

The problem with AK is that you are very rarely "well ahead"

Even if the guy has random crap such as T8os you are only about a 65%-35% shot.

In a sitngo I fold every hand for the first 3 levels unless it's AA KK or QQ


My god, and ppl give you action when you get a hand. What stakes?
p.s, what SnG affords you that luxury?


No they don't give me action which is great when the blinds are there for the stealing.

It's a tried and tested way of winning Sit n Gos

It's not really poker though it's just following a script like a robot


Title: Re: first hand of a sitngo
Post by: Longy on April 10, 2007, 10:48:42 PM
Fold. Im only calling here with aa, kk,qq. Ak is not a great hand given his range here, even if he is a total donk (which granted he might be given this hand). If you rate to +ev risking all your chips in a marginal spot is suicidal.

The use of these chips only comes effective later in the game, so for a few more levels the affect of doubling up is negligble.

I guarentee you 90%+ of top sng players fold this.


Title: Re: first hand of a sitngo
Post by: Swordpoker on April 12, 2007, 11:23:08 AM
fold