Title: Negreanu's Blog Post by: Woodsey on April 09, 2007, 07:36:16 PM http://www.fullcontactpoker.com/poker-journal.php?subaction=showfull&id=1176114481&archive=&start_from=&ucat=&
Thought I would post this so Ram and Mark know about it Title: Re: Negreanu's Blog Post by: boldie on April 09, 2007, 07:44:33 PM interesting and his previous post ripping the piss out of Hellmuth and his blog is hilarious.
Title: Re: Negreanu's Blog Post by: Sark79 on April 09, 2007, 07:54:25 PM I have always liked Negreanu, he tells it straight and doesn't mess about :D .
Title: Re: Negreanu's Blog Post by: SuffolkPunch on April 09, 2007, 08:37:44 PM Barny Boatman has just put up this reply on THM site on behalf of Ram.... ;popcorn;
I have just spoken to Ram who is not best pleased about the innacurate accounts of the dispute with Phil Ivey which has been doing the rounds and have now appeard on Daniel Negranau's blog. Ram has asked us to reproduce this letter here and will be giving his own full version of events at a later date. Daniel. I have just read your blog in which you complain of your friend's treatment and the hands of a couple of “hustlers”. I understand that you have jumbled the letters in their names, although as a chronic dyslexic this makes absolutely no difference to me. As is your intention, the whole world of course knows exactly who you are talking about. I feel that I know you fairly well, both through our meetings across the poker table and through your public persona. I often cite you as one of the people in poker I most admire and I know that your take on any issue connected with poker is always going to be worth hearing. That is why I am particularly disappointed that you have made a public pronouncement on a private matter about which - as you readily accept - you do not have all the facts, and have only heard from one side. I quote from your blog: 'You played for days and days, continued to raise the stake unprovoked, set the rules for the game...' The first two words are spot on, but everything beyond that tells me that your information is not exactly from the horse's mouth, and I don't think we should be playing Chinese Whispers with people's reputations. I do not know your buddy very well but he has always struck me in the past as a good guy. I do not doubt that he feels aggrieved, and I would not dream of making a public judgment about a dispute he is involved in; Particularly when I have never discussed it with him. Notwithstanding the pressure to find regular content for your blog, it is a shame that you do not accord my buddy the same courtesy. Ram is a man of infinite patience and very few words. For the past few months he has maintained a dignified public silence whilst seeing his character attacked and misinformation spread. I know he does not feel under any obligation to respond to the flamers and gossips, and I don't suppose he will thank me for writing this, but I feel it's time I made one very simple observation. Of all the people I have known both inside and outside poker, none is more fundamentally honest and thoroughly honorable than Ram Vaswani. No one who has spent any time with him on or off the poker table would ever seriously question that. This is not to imply otherwise about any other party, it is simply that I know this about Ram to the extent that I would stake my life on it. Even if I did not know the facts of the case I would therefore be quite certain that he would have to have a very good reason, and certainly to be utterly convinced in his own mind, if he were to dispute a gambling debt. I know that this matter is already in the public domain and that you are only repeating in good faith what you have been told. Perhaps by way of balance though, you might feel it would be appropriate to publish this letter. All the very best. Barny Boatman Title: Re: Negreanu's Blog Post by: AndrewT on April 09, 2007, 10:17:02 PM Wow, Negreanu really has his finger on the pulse of what's happening in poker, doesn't he?
I wonder what he makes of the rumours that Stu Unger is looking a little spaced out. Title: Re: Negreanu's Blog Post by: Royal Flush on April 09, 2007, 10:27:32 PM Wow, Negreanu really has his finger on the pulse of what's happening in poker, doesn't he? I wonder what he makes of the rumours that Stu Unger is looking a little spaced out. lol Title: Re: Negreanu's Blog Post by: enemyno1 on April 09, 2007, 11:25:17 PM Flushy,Do you fancy a game of pitch and putt tomorrow?
Title: Re: Negreanu's Blog Post by: Royal Flush on April 09, 2007, 11:32:04 PM Flushy,Do you fancy a game of pitch and putt tomorrow? £5000/hole? Title: Re: Negreanu's Blog Post by: enemyno1 on April 09, 2007, 11:39:23 PM Do you take American Express?
Title: Re: Negreanu's Blog Post by: AndrewT on April 09, 2007, 11:39:30 PM Flushy,Do you fancy a game of pitch and putt tomorrow? £5000/hole? I'd imagine that's not the first time Flushy has negotiated a price for a hole... Title: Re: Negreanu's Blog Post by: enemyno1 on April 09, 2007, 11:41:02 PM He"s a very naughty boy.
Title: Re: Negreanu's Blog Post by: Royal Flush on April 09, 2007, 11:43:31 PM Do you take American Express? I take anything i can get! What happened to you and Mick on Saturday? Title: Re: Negreanu's Blog Post by: enemyno1 on April 09, 2007, 11:47:26 PM I lost a satt. when I was 18000 to 2000 heads up and decided to retire from poker and Mick lost in a cash game on friday for the first time in 6 years and decided to drown his sorrows.
Title: Re: Negreanu's Blog Post by: wsopin07 on April 09, 2007, 11:55:08 PM Flushy,Do you fancy a game of pitch and putt tomorrow? £5000/hole? I can be on the next flight, but my handicap is +13, still on???? Title: Re: Negreanu's Blog Post by: Wardonkey on April 09, 2007, 11:57:38 PM Can I play?
My handicap is 426. Title: Re: Negreanu's Blog Post by: Ironside on April 09, 2007, 11:58:45 PM i'll play off scratch but you still wont beat me as i have ways and means
Title: Re: Negreanu's Blog Post by: wsopin07 on April 10, 2007, 12:03:03 AM i'll play off scratch but you still wont beat me as i have ways and means what u gonna do, bend my putter ;snoopy'sguns;, u stand no chance Title: Re: Negreanu's Blog Post by: Royal Flush on April 10, 2007, 12:07:25 AM I lost a satt. when I was 18000 to 2000 heads up and decided to retire from poker and Mick lost in a cash game on friday for the first time in 6 years and decided to drown his sorrows. Retire at the top i like it! Next league winner gets a trip to Vegas though, you might have to make a dramatic comeback to the game..... Mick lost? I didn't know that was possible, what are the chances of him losing and you blowing that lead, it has to be in the billions! Title: Re: Negreanu's Blog Post by: Ironside on April 10, 2007, 12:28:04 AM i'll bring my AK47 out
Title: Re: Negreanu's Blog Post by: tikay on April 10, 2007, 04:05:39 AM Wow, Negreanu really has his finger on the pulse of what's happening in poker, doesn't he? I wonder what he makes of the rumours that Stu Unger is looking a little spaced out. Classic! Title: Re: Negreanu's Blog Post by: bolt pp on April 10, 2007, 04:47:30 AM Can someone direct me to marc goodwins version of events please, his blog or wherever he wrote about it, if it's not suitable to link here chuck me a PM, cheers.
Title: Re: Negreanu's Blog Post by: Ironside on April 10, 2007, 05:00:42 AM http://blondepoker.com/forum/index.php?topic=19569.msg400124#msg400124
there you go bolt Title: Re: Negreanu's Blog Post by: MadYank on April 10, 2007, 11:27:22 AM Anyone up for a game of Nuclear Reactor Physics quiz?
$5000/question I promise I've forgotten most of what I knew.... Title: Re: Negreanu's Blog Post by: ariston on April 10, 2007, 11:29:22 AM Very good timing of DN to post this just as Marc and Ram are going out there for the Bellagio event and to sort this out with Ivey. Arbitration has already been sorted with a very well respected player giving the final ruling but DN has obviously decided to start slinging the muck and trying to get everybody behind his mate before the arbitration. Maybe the timing of this post was just a coincidence though obviously ::)
Title: Re: Negreanu's Blog Post by: bolt pp on April 10, 2007, 11:32:41 AM Very good timing of DN to post this just as Marc and Ram are going out there for the Bellagio event and to sort this out with Ivey. Arbitration has already been sorted with a very well respected player giving the final ruling but DN has obviously decided to start slinging the muck and trying to get everybody behind his mate before the arbitration. Maybe the timing of this post was just a coincidence though obviously ::) And what did Kev decide, ram owes phil $500,000 and steak and kidney pies all round? Title: Re: Negreanu's Blog Post by: AndrewT on April 10, 2007, 12:03:00 PM Anyone up for a game of Nuclear Reactor Physics quiz? $5000/question I promise I've forgotten most of what I knew.... I'll give it a go, seeing as a couple of guys from Tehran have offered me a million dollars for the answer sheet once we're done. Title: Re: Negreanu's Blog Post by: AndrewT on April 10, 2007, 12:11:12 PM Very good timing of DN to post this just as Marc and Ram are going out there for the Bellagio event and to sort this out with Ivey. Arbitration has already been sorted with a very well respected player giving the final ruling but DN has obviously decided to start slinging the muck and trying to get everybody behind his mate before the arbitration. Maybe the timing of this post was just a coincidence though obviously ::) Quote from: Daniel Negreanu from his forum I wrote about this in defense of Ivey's who's name has been dragged through the mud in a blog written by Goodwin. Also, there's been lots of negative things posted about Ivey in relation to this stuff, and it's completely unfair. Ivey knew I was writing the blog and was in favor of it. Ivey doesn't post on the internet, but heard all of the negative stuff being said about him, and gave me the ok to tell his side of the story. Note that last sentence - DN clearly implies that this is not merely his opinion of things, but Ivey's opinion, which DN is posting on his blog. Looks like Ivey is trying to put a little PR pressure on Marc and Ram via his patsy. EDIT: Actually, he does explicitly state this further on. Quote from: Daniel Negreanu from his forum As for me doing this for Ivey, he specifically asked me to. He was upset that people were writing lies about him and asked me to blog it since he knows my blog has a wide audience. Title: Re: Negreanu's Blog Post by: tikay on April 10, 2007, 12:16:16 PM Can someone direct me to marc goodwins version of events please, his blog or wherever he wrote about it, if it's not suitable to link here chuck me a PM, cheers. I have e-Mailed a Link to this thread to Marc, & he will reply in due course. He told me in Monte Carlo that he & Phil Ivey had sat down to settle it out there, but made no progress. The issue is somewhat more complex than it would seem on the surface. Title: Re: Negreanu's Blog Post by: ariston on April 10, 2007, 12:29:33 PM spoke to him as he arrived at the bellagio late last night our time. He is dealing with it Tony and as you say there is a lot more to this than meets the eye
Title: Re: Negreanu's Blog Post by: RED-DOG on April 10, 2007, 01:35:26 PM I emailed Danny this morning and received this reply.
"Sorry, I have absolutely no idea who you are" Title: Re: Negreanu's Blog Post by: TightEnd on April 10, 2007, 01:45:36 PM I rang Phil this morning.
He talked me through it, and told me to ensure I kept ariston fully appraised of the situation Title: Re: Negreanu's Blog Post by: JungleCat03 on April 10, 2007, 01:48:17 PM I rang Phil this morning. He talked me through it, and told me to ensure I kept ariston fully appraised of the situation rotflmfao rotflmfao TIGHTEND FOR MO......nevermind. Title: Re: Negreanu's Blog Post by: Rod Paradise on April 10, 2007, 01:56:24 PM I rang Phil this morning. He talked me through it, and told me to ensure I kept ariston fully appraised of the situation rotflmfao rotflmfao TIGHTEND FOR MO......nevermind. Mother? Rod's now worried Poppet's hacked Junglecat's login Title: Re: Negreanu's Blog Post by: The Sweeney on April 10, 2007, 02:03:38 PM Quote Now, to be fair, I've only heard one side of the story, but it seems like the evidence is overwhelmingly compelling in favor of my friend. Mr Negreanu is available for personal appearances, book-signings and jury service..... Title: Re: Negreanu's Blog Post by: ariston on April 10, 2007, 02:06:32 PM mock all you like but I always stand up for a mate and marc wasnt impressed by this turn of events. Loads more to come out of this and marc will post on the forum when its all resolved.
no need to keep me appraised as I know whats going on but have been asked to leave it off forum for the time being. The americans stick together and accuse the brits of being welchers/crybabies etc and the brits- they just try and mock the ones who stick up for their mate. Reputation isn't a joking matter for me so sorry if I seem to have had a sense of humour transplant. Title: Re: Negreanu's Blog Post by: Mr Cool on April 10, 2007, 03:17:09 PM Hi all hope you are all ok. Just thougt i would let you know that i am in Vegas to meet up with Phil. We met in Monte Carlo and he brought his own arbitrator lol So nothing was resolved. We agreed to get an independant one and whatever their conclusion we all agree to abide by it and put the matter to bed. We wil let you all know the outcome. As the self appointed voice of reason we thought we would use Mr Negreanu. We know he has a balanced view on all matters and always listens to both sides before making a judgment. On that basis he is our first choice. All the best Marc
Title: Re: Negreanu's Blog Post by: ariston on April 10, 2007, 03:22:40 PM Gl out there lol
Title: Re: Negreanu's Blog Post by: wsopin07 on April 10, 2007, 04:24:58 PM Hi all hope you are all ok. Just thougt i would let you know that i am in Vegas to meet up with Phil. We met in Monte Carlo and he brought his own arbitrator lol So nothing was resolved. We agreed to get an independant one and whatever their conclusion we all agree to abide by it and put the matter to bed. We wil let you all know the outcome. As the self appointed voice of reason we thought we would use Mr Negreanu. We know he has a balanced view on all matters and always listens to both sides before making a judgment. On that basis he is our first choice. All the best Marc OK, I will be on the 1st flight tomorrow to Vegas to resolve this matter, being an American they would have to use me ;scarymoment;, besides little Danny is a Canadian, all they do is run and hide, kinda like the French that I love so much ;dewi; |