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 what the feck is going through this guys mind ??

 


- firedud4 sitting in seat 1 with $750.27
- monkeyhanga sitting in seat 2 with $3059.73
- grass-hopper sitting in seat 3 with $1745.00
- ringraid sitting in seat 4 with $4420.00 [Dealer]
- callgirl1980 sitting in seat 5 with $1875.00
- ynwalone sitting in seat 6 with $2760.00
- minefield sitting in seat 7 with $1510.00
- wee_Tomats sitting in seat 8 with $1940.00
- Monito sitting in seat 9 with $2115.00
- mikke09 sitting in seat 10 with $1940.00

callgirl1980 posted the small blind - $15.00
ynwalone posted the big blind - $30.00

** Dealing card to wee_Tomats:  Ac,  Ad
minefield folded
wee_Tomats raised - $120.00
Monito folded
mikke09 folded
firedud4 called - $120.00
monkeyhanga called - $120.00
grass-hopper folded
ringraid called - $120.00
callgirl1980 folded
ynwalone called - $120.00

** Dealing the flop:  4c,  6h,  6d
ynwalone checked
wee_Tomats went all-in - $1820.00
firedud4 went all-in - $630.27
monkeyhanga folded
ringraid folded
ynwalone folded
firedud4 shows:  Kh,  8s

** Dealing the turn:  7s

** Dealing the river:  5s
firedud4 wins $1875.54 from the main pot

 i then said wtf are u doing calling off ll your chips with that ??
 
 he said , '' it looked good to me ''

 i said , calling off all my chips with no pair no draw on a paired board against a preflop raiser usually looks good to me as well , and explained the fact that he was a 2% favourite to win the hand with his call .

 to which , and this is the most baffling statement ive ever heard , he replied

 '' the odds dont always count you know , you could have been bluffing ''

 i give up            :dontask:      ;grr;     ;technophobe;

He miss clicked.

sorry big tomatoes its my favourite hand  ::)

 its ok , it looked good

lol,

it was sick

 it wasnt really you was it ?

To be honest I think you need to look at your own play here.

Your raise of 4xBB in early position is fair enough.

However when you get FOUR callers (3 of them having position on you) you have to understand that this is pretty much a disaster. when you raise with ACES you are hoping for someone to re-raise. You don't want a string of callers.

Simply going all in once the flop comes out is a desperate move in the hope no-one has a six.

Also what are you doing berating the guy who has called you when he is almost drawing dead???

Why are you trying to educate this fool?  do you want him to fold in future when he is in this spot against you?

I agree completely.

word bro

probably

There's always something in the way of a truly great bad beat tale.

I can't moan about this one unless the money goes in on the flop. It went in before (surprise surprise) so just an 11/2 tale really.

 POKERSTARS GAME #9399741445: TOURNAMENT #47730805, $25+$2 HOLD'EM NO LIMIT - LEVEL V (75/150) - 2007/04/13 - 12:01:41 (ET)
Table '47730805 1' 9-max Seat #5 is the button
Seat 1: low18is63 (1555 in chips)
Seat 2: 3Nemesis (3390 in chips)
Seat 3: prins (1045 in chips)
Seat 4: trondheim (3000 in chips)
Seat 5: tigmong (1150 in chips)
Seat 6: supergurkan (1280 in chips)
Seat 8: GiorisGR (2080 in chips)
supergurkan: posts small blind 75
GiorisGR: posts big blind 150
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to tigmong [Jc Js]
low18is63: folds
3Nemesis: folds
prins: raises 895 to 1045 and is all-in
trondheim: folds
tigmong: raises 105 to 1150 and is all-in
supergurkan: folds
GiorisGR: folds
*** FLOP *** [2c Jh 2h]
*** TURN *** [2c Jh 2h] [4s]
*** RIVER *** [2c Jh 2h 4s] [4h]
*** SHOW DOWN ***
prins: shows [4d 4c] (four of a kind, Fours)
tigmong: shows [Jc Js] (a full house, Jacks full of Fours)
prins collected 2315 from pot
*** SUMMARY ***
Total pot 2315 | Rake 0
Board [2c Jh 2h 4s 4h]

 
 1. do you think i wanted 4 callers ? do you think i dont know i only want 1 or 2 callers , or a re-raiser ?

 2. i couldnt see how anybody is beating me here ? 56 , 67 , 44 , A6 ??? whats the chances , and i get called from any overpair , i decided , if i was beat on that flop , so be it.

 3. i didnt berate him , i was pointing out to him , and others at the table , that i was 98% favourite to win the hand post flop

 4. what are the chances of me running into this guy online again ? he'll call anyway if  '' it looks good to him ''

 so i dont think i need to look at my play , this guy needs a brain transplant.

1. Yes and I said your raise was fair enough. There is no way you can expect four callers when you raise 4xBB in early position. So you did nothing wrong pre flop.

2. Well 4 of them called. They can't ALL have premium hands like KK, QQ etc... In fact they'd probablyhave re-raised with KK, QQ, JJ, AK. maybe even TT or AQ/AJ The last caller and the Big Blind probably called for value with any random holding. This could easily be hands that inlcude a 6 like A6, 67, 56, 66 even 86 or 46. I know I'd have called with those hands if I were in the Big blind's shoes.

3. yes you did berate him and you're still berating him on here. Let it go and be glad there are people like him out there playing for real money.

4. Every time you lose a hand you should always start with how YOU played it and take it from there

  ;sleep;

I take it all back

You played the hand like a Poker God and that guy is a donk.

Case Closed!

In fact It's such an open and shut case I don't know why you even posted it in the first place. Phil Ivey himself could not have played the hand any better

Big Toms, dont know why you are getting so annoed with johnbhoy.

This is a board for analysis of hands not to show how much of a donk someone is and therefore people have analysed your hand. In fact including myself there have been 3 other people who have posted here, agreeing with the analysis johnbhoy stated. Call the guy with K8 a donk but what if he had K6, A6, 56 or 76 suited, a possibility as in late position they are getting a nice price to come in and hit their draws. Would you have considered yourself to have played the hand right then with the all in push after the flop.
There is no flush draw, and if you go in for $1820 no body is calling you with a four here and even someone with JJ or QQ is going to put some serious thought into folding after your early position 4xBB raise so in all likelyhood the only caller will be with a 6 or 44, with you being the dog.
I would have preferred to have a pot sized raise to see where i stand myself.

never, never tell the fish thay played badly.

johnbhoy is right here.  no point to get annoyed. Everyone at the table probably made notes on you- overplays AA.

 doubt it

Just suffered a loss to a similar fate to a player making a bizarre call although not as bad a beat as yours.

how can you keep us in suspense? please tell us about it in great detail

Can't afford the 50p.  ::)

They should..if there was one decent player on that table he will have taken a note of what you did in this hand post flop.
Yes you got unlucky but you should really evaluate what you did post flop here and take that into account next time you get Aces and 4 callers and see a pair hit the board.

 i shipped it in 98% favourite and he hit a miracle end of , if that is bad play then  ;smackedbottom;

the bad play is not that the guy who called you was miles behind. The play that is being questioned (or it is atleast pointed out as something to think about in the future)  is that you assumed noone had a 6. His play was awful of course it was. All I'm saying (and others with me) is that you just shipped all your chips in the middle against 4 oppo's and anyone of them could have a 6. 56 suited is not unlikely to be in there.

just something to think about, that's all.

His bad play wasn't that he might have walked into a 6 it's that he gave no-one room to hang themselves, i would be looking to get value for my AA on a safe board like this.

AA was a clear fold there.



Standard

Agree with this.  Check raise?

I can't get away from the (to me) logical position here.

If I am 98% favourite, I want Mr 2% Matey Boy to call me all night & all day.

48 out of 49 times, I scoop, & have a quite smile to myself at his play. 1 time in 49 he hits. Can I & should I really complain at his play?

We can't have our cake nd eat it, or our bread buttered both sides!

I hate this phrase thing.  You clearly can have cake and eat it.  And you most definately can butter both sides of your bread, although it tends to get messy (just like this hand).

rotflmfao rotflmfao

seriously, I find at the lower levels people do some real crazy shit online. I am assuming this was a low level STT ? some players just like to jerk around on them, and tilt people up. It can be good fun....