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Title: Hand from the APAT scottish event Post by: Newmanseye on April 14, 2007, 11:46:38 PM Blinds are 100 -200
We are in Late position with 27500 in chips with the average stack at 11800 we have Jc Jd Its folded to us in the cutoff and we raise to 600. Button player has 9000 chips, and flat calls Small blind and Big blind fold Flop Qc Js 6h We bet 900 Button Reraises to 2500 We call Turn Th We bet 1600 Button pushes... Now we have been stealing this guys money all day and he is quite passive, folding to reraises when he has missed the flop, you know the type. SO given the money in the middle and his possible range, would you call, if so what do you think he has? Title: Re: Hand from the APAT scottish event Post by: Horneris on April 15, 2007, 12:14:55 AM We insta call because the way youve described him hes not on AK.
We think he has QQ to beat you. Or 66, QJ, AQ, or slowly played KK or AA (i wouldnt, but seen it done) all of which you beat. We dont think hes got AK with the way youve described his flop play. Title: Re: Hand from the APAT scottish event Post by: NoflopsHomer on April 15, 2007, 12:26:00 AM We think you should have pushed the flop. Also, why are you flat-calling the raise on the flop only to bet again on the turn. It makes no sense.
Title: Re: Hand from the APAT scottish event Post by: Newmanseye on April 15, 2007, 12:29:37 AM We think you should have pushed the flop. Also, why are you flat-calling the raise on the flop only to bet again on the turn. It makes no sense. Truth be told I was trying to be tricky with the guy and it seems to have bit me in the arse. I was sure he had AK and I folded, he then told me he had Aces. I arsed the hand up completely, when I got all his chips in I bottled it and didnt call. lesson learned Title: Re: Hand from the APAT scottish event Post by: M3boy on April 15, 2007, 12:30:23 AM We think you should have pushed the flop. Also, why are you flat-calling the raise on the flop only to bet again on the turn. It makes no sense. I agree Push all in on the flop. Make him pay for the draw, and if he has QQ (unlikely) then so be it Title: Re: Hand from the APAT scottish event Post by: Horneris on April 15, 2007, 12:44:45 AM You folded that. wow. ul
Title: Re: Hand from the APAT scottish event Post by: Newmanseye on April 15, 2007, 12:47:38 AM You folded that. wow. ul That was the beginning of the end lol Title: Re: Hand from the APAT scottish event Post by: turny on April 15, 2007, 12:50:15 AM We think you should have pushed the flop. Also, why are you flat-calling the raise on the flop only to bet again on the turn. It makes no sense. ;iagree; i push here to Title: Re: Hand from the APAT scottish event Post by: Horneris on April 15, 2007, 01:30:00 AM I think pushing the flop gives your hand away too much. I want his money in the pot for sure with a hand like AQ, AA, KK, KQ
id probs check raise all in on the turn. Title: Re: Hand from the APAT scottish event Post by: NoflopsHomer on April 15, 2007, 01:56:04 AM I think pushing the flop gives your hand away too much. I want his money in the pot for sure with a hand like AQ, AA, KK, KQ id probs check raise all in on the turn. He's already put in over 1/3 of his chips. He's not going anywhere. Title: Re: Hand from the APAT scottish event Post by: LeKnave on April 15, 2007, 09:10:47 AM Am i right in thinking it is only 4300 more to call on the turn?
I dont think its possible to fold for 4300 with ur hand even if u think he has AK you still have 10 outs to make the boat/quads, and with your stack if u miss your still very comfortable. I dont think AK flat calls preflop (might as u described him a passive) OR r/r on the flop (being ABC passive). Its a call for me. Title: Re: Hand from the APAT scottish event Post by: WellChief on April 15, 2007, 09:47:57 AM Lol he's only got 9000 total, if you don't reraise the flop you HAVE to call the turn.
Title: Re: Hand from the APAT scottish event Post by: johnbhoy76 on April 15, 2007, 10:38:25 AM Blinds are 100 -200 We are in Late position with 27500 in chips with the average stack at 11800 we have Jc Jd Its folded to us in the cutoff and we raise to 600. Button player has 9000 chips, and flat calls Small blind and Big blind fold Flop Qc Js 6h We bet 900 Button Reraises to 2500 To be honest I am all in right here. He's not going anywhere now as he's put over a third of his stack in on this hand already. If he has QQ and has hit a higher set then that's life. What's more likely is that he has a hand like AQ, AA, KK, QJ and thinks he is in front Title: Re: Hand from the APAT scottish event Post by: KingPoker on April 15, 2007, 10:49:35 AM Insta push for me,with 27k and no worry of elimination i am calling this guy everytime.
Plus as the bigstack you should be bullying the players at your table. You just lost all respect you had from your opponents on this hand. You should be pushing the hand to say these are the hands i get,i flop sets ll the time, i call you all the way with them and you lose so dont play back at me. Title: Re: Hand from the APAT scottish event Post by: bhoywonder on April 15, 2007, 10:52:42 AM ok without reading the replys billy ( it always puts me off )
im putting him on a very narrow range...probably AK or QQ,possibly 10 10.... so u may well be behind here.but are u gonna fold with so much invested in the pot and with all he has left?If he had me outchipped i probably reluctantly fold... sure if u call and lose u,ve took around a 30% hit on ur stack...but u have live outs with 2 cards to come.. im calling everytime Title: Re: Hand from the APAT scottish event Post by: Bazzaboy on April 15, 2007, 11:30:14 AM Either shove flop or get it in on the turn. The one thing you can never do here is fold. If he is as you describe you are never behind here
Title: Re: Hand from the APAT scottish event Post by: GlasgowBandit on April 15, 2007, 12:24:42 PM Reading over initial post I assumed he had AK and flat called hoping to peel off an A or K on the flop. As soon as he misses that I am committing myself to the pot by re-raising him enough on the flop that sees me call if he pushes. no reason here to lay down 2nd set.
I hate playing Jacks though I always seem to hit two over cards on the flop but if I hit my set all the chippies are going in. Title: Re: Hand from the APAT scottish event Post by: BigTomatoes on April 15, 2007, 03:24:34 PM billy that stinks , even by your standards , he could have shown me the AK and id still call him. honest to god. stop outthinking yourself mate. Title: Re: Hand from the APAT scottish event Post by: Royal Flush on April 15, 2007, 05:11:54 PM You played this hand perfect till the turn, then you made 2 mistakes out of 2 decisions.
The coal miner was right, you should check ship, your lead lets him off the hook with a lot of hands, how you passed though is beyond comprehension! Title: Re: Hand from the APAT scottish event Post by: Newmanseye on April 15, 2007, 10:19:53 PM I folded because i thought I was behind, i was in the mind set that there was no need to risk the additional 4300 at this point as I could steal his blinds and reraise him off pots to grind him down, Bad decision i know and it kind of infected my head yesterday.
I can only blame myself ( and Tikay for the constant bokk) |