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Title: mansion 100k final table
Post by: portfolio on April 20, 2007, 03:26:45 PM
was 5/8 with 100k     blinds 4-8k.

ss utg  pushes for 52k     i almost double the bet at 100k  wit       j j ,

what  range of hands could the button  then push all in with  for 170k total  to risk the majority of their stack to 2 prior all ins??

and why??


Title: Re: mansion 100k final table
Post by: temp0r on April 20, 2007, 06:26:50 PM
WARNING: INCOMING MANSION BAD BEAT STORY


Title: Re: mansion 100k final table
Post by: AlexMartin on April 21, 2007, 03:54:07 AM
was 5/8 with 100k     blinds 4-8k.

ss utg  pushes for 52k     i almost double the bet at 100k  wit       j j ,

what  range of hands could should? the button  then push all in with  for 170k total  to risk the majority of their stack to 2 prior all ins??

and why??

Assume this is a bad beat moan. He could push with 1010 or even AK here, not the strangest plays iv seen. But i think i would need Kings to ship here, Queens is a a pass.
The range of hands he needs should be tiny. He is risking over half his healthy stack agaisnt two prior all-ins, one from a player who has plenty so wont be commiting without a big pair or AK.

Let me guess he had 99 or AK and spiked?


Title: Re: mansion 100k final table
Post by: boldie on April 21, 2007, 12:18:34 PM
was 5/8 with 100k     blinds 4-8k.

ss utg  pushes for 52k     i almost double the bet at 100k  wit       j j ,

what  range of hands could the button  then push all in with  for 170k total  to risk the majority of their stack to 2 prior all ins??

and why??


A big pair. QQ+ BTW.. What position were you in? If you were shortly after UTG I don't like your push at all. JJ is a very dangerous hand and why would you accept a race against a shortstack who pushes for half your chips from UTG. Surely he wouldn't do that with any two cards?

If you were very close to the button it might be fair enough but I hate people who shove with JJ after an all-in raise with people still to act behind them. How many chips did the BB and SB have? Could they fold a half decent hand here?


Title: Re: mansion 100k final table
Post by: portfolio on April 24, 2007, 09:04:19 PM
WARNING: INCOMING MANSION BAD BEAT STORY

ty for ur insight.


Title: Re: mansion 100k final table
Post by: portfolio on May 29, 2007, 05:50:42 PM
was 5/8 with 100k     blinds 4-8k.

ss utg  pushes for 52k     i almost double the bet at 100k  wit       j j ,

what  range of hands could should? the button  then push all in with  for 170k total  to risk the majority of their stack to 2 prior all ins??

and why??

Assume this is a bad beat moan. He could push with 1010 or even AK here, not the strangest plays iv seen. But i think i would need Kings to ship here, Queens is a a pass.
The range of hands he needs should be tiny. He is risking over half his healthy stack agaisnt two prior all-ins, one from a player who has plenty so wont be commiting without a big pair or AK.

Let me guess he had 99 or AK and spiked?


ak      spot on as ever alex.


it seems ak- aj  are unlayable on mansion  !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


Title: Re: mansion 100k final table
Post by: RichD on June 01, 2007, 02:44:30 PM
Dont think him shoving AK there is a awful spot or awful play at all... especially if playing to win. Probably the lowest hand in his range... I hope!


Title: Re: mansion 100k final table
Post by: portfolio on June 01, 2007, 03:24:17 PM
ty for the responses .

i posted this as i am genuinly bemused  by the ak   call   

yet it seems the norm these days to pass big pairs in great situations  yet call off   with essentially, no hand.

food for thought indeed.


Title: Re: mansion 100k final table
Post by: M3boy on June 01, 2007, 05:51:53 PM
ty for the responses .

i posted this as i am genuinly bemused  by the ak   call   

yet it seems the norm these days to pass big pairs in great situations  yet call off   with essentially, no hand.

food for thought indeed.

Ive said it many times, I BLAME POKER ON TV.

And it is getting worse!!!!!


Title: Re: mansion 100k final table
Post by: AlexMartin on June 02, 2007, 01:38:51 AM
ty for the responses .

i posted this as i am genuinly bemused  by the ak   call   

yet it seems the norm these days to pass big pairs in great situations  yet call off   with essentially, no hand.

food for thought indeed.

Ive said it many times, I BLAME POKER ON TV.

And it is getting worse!!!!!

then they saw Tikay.