Title: DO POKER GODS EXIST? Post by: MANTIS01 on April 24, 2007, 04:20:18 PM Something remarkable happened to me during a £50 F/O tournament at my local casino on Sunday night. I will tell you about this in a moment.
The right-side of my brain is the dominant force in my life. So when playing poker my thoughts are ruled by theory, people, feel and I am inclined to believe in poker gods. People like Chris "Jesus" Ferguson are left-side brain orientated and play poker with far more emphasis on the mathematics of the situation. I wonder if people like Chris Ferguson believe in poker gods? Science Vs Mystical or Faith Vs Factual. Following the excellent live coverage in Manchester at the weekend I couldn't help but think that El Blondie was destined to win. He could do no wrong and proceeded to win all the crucial races. And any of us who watched Jamie Gold literally cruise to victory in the WSOP Main Event must agree that his "luck" was quite extraordinary. So Sunday night £50 Freezeout.... There are 10 players left, two 5-handed tables and I am the clear chip leader. It has been one of those rare days when literally everything has gone right. I have not lost a single pot so far! I feel calm, serene and quite certain I will win, and win in a canter. I look down to see Tc Td and standard raise. The BB announces all-in immediately...for about 40% of my stack. Although I would almost always call in this situation I decided against it. I reasoned that it was the final table bubble, I was chip leader and did not need to gamble right here and right now. I declined an opportunity to play poker even though the tournament had been one big rush. My opponent showed Th Ts....Quite weird in itself 5-handed I can't explain it but things felt different after that. I played 4 further hands in the competition and lost all 4. Hand 1: Kd Kc Vs Js Qd...all-in pre-flop ...board Td Jh Ac 4d Jc Hand 2: Ac Td Vs Kh Qs...all-in on a flop of Jd Qc Kd ....river Qh Hand 3: Kh Jh Vs Aspades Td...all-in on a flop of Kc Js 2h ....river Qc Final Table & Hand 4: Now short-stacked and push in SB with 6s 6c...BB calls with Ad Kc. I have never seen so many Aces and Kings. In fact I think that the dealer actually dealt out 10 or more community cards and they were all Aces and Kings. The board looked something like this Ad Ac Kh Kc Ahrt Kd Kh Ac. And they weren't regular cards either....they were those big comedy cards Bruce Forsyth uses on Play Your Cards Right....or that's how it seemed anyway. Driving home I was convinced that turning my nose up at the 10s gamble rankled the poker gods in some way. Before then I hadn't lost a pot but after that this ridiculous series of events occurred. It would be interesting to know what the accumulated mathematical odds are of losing those 4 hands in that manner when the chips actually went in. I think the results would be quite freakish. I would be intrigued to know whether other players actually believe in Poker Gods and how they work. And do religious poker players believe in poker gods or is that just blasphemy? Title: Re: DO POKER GODS EXIST? Post by: matt674 on April 24, 2007, 04:24:58 PM win lots of pots at the beginning of a tourney that perhaps you shouldn't have won followed by losing pots at the end that maybe you should have won.
Just sounds like the evil overlords "probability" and "law of averages" toying with you. I'll carry on making my weekly chicken sacrifice though just to be on the safe side in case they do exist. Title: Re: DO POKER GODS EXIST? Post by: kinboshi on April 24, 2007, 05:10:56 PM That's fête.
Title: Re: DO POKER GODS EXIST? Post by: Royal Flush on April 24, 2007, 05:22:20 PM People who say bad play gets rewarded should look at this thread, you did everything right then folded TT 5 handed, your bad play certainley didn't get rewarded!
Title: Re: DO POKER GODS EXIST? Post by: ItsMrAlex2u on April 24, 2007, 07:38:29 PM I wouldnt have folded the tens, but a bit harsh in your response there flushy to be honest. Esp to a fairly new member
Title: Re: DO POKER GODS EXIST? Post by: Rookie (Rodney) on April 24, 2007, 07:46:10 PM I wouldnt have folded the tens, but a bit harsh in your response there flushy to be honest. Esp to a fairly new member lol did you expect anything less? Title: Re: DO POKER GODS EXIST? Post by: redsimon on April 24, 2007, 08:12:04 PM I think he owes us £2.. :)
Title: Re: DO POKER GODS EXIST? Post by: BigTomatoes on April 26, 2007, 08:36:50 PM I wouldnt have folded the tens, but a bit harsh in your response there flushy to be honest. Esp to a fairly new member lol did you expect anything less? its starting to get to the point where you dont expect anything more Title: Re: DO POKER GODS EXIST? Post by: Royal Flush on April 26, 2007, 08:57:47 PM I wouldnt have folded the tens, but a bit harsh in your response there flushy to be honest. Esp to a fairly new member lol did you expect anything less? its starting to get to the point where you dont expect anything more Be careful using this thread, George Bush is personally tracking it looking for those who know the 'truth' about 9-11! Title: Re: DO POKER GODS EXIST? Post by: kinboshi on April 26, 2007, 09:01:48 PM Was it the Scandies?
:dontask: Title: Re: DO POKER GODS EXIST? Post by: BigTomatoes on April 26, 2007, 09:13:19 PM you can ignore me , you can laugh at me , you can slag me off , but you cant argue facts with me. thats why you have to resort to childish nonsense. pathetic. Title: Re: DO POKER GODS EXIST? Post by: Royal Flush on April 26, 2007, 09:14:37 PM you can ignore me , you can laugh at me , you can slag me off , but you cant argue facts with me. thats why you have to resort to childish nonsense. pathetic. lol 'facts' do you mean internet videos? Title: Re: DO POKER GODS EXIST? Post by: BigTomatoes on April 26, 2007, 09:26:22 PM if you want to see some videos , i could show you hundreds. if you want to stay in your box , and believe your media / state fed propaganda tunnel vision views thats up to you either way , i couldnt really care. i know what i believe , if you believe otherwise thats your perogative. no need for the petty replies , snidy comments which your becoming famous for. i cant decide if your like a broken record or an old lady at the bingo bitching about her next door neigbour Title: Re: DO POKER GODS EXIST? Post by: Royal Flush on April 26, 2007, 09:32:38 PM if you want to see some videos , i could show you hundreds. if you want to stay in your box , and believe your media / state fed propaganda tunnel vision views thats up to you I have seen many, none of them are backed up with anything credible, like say some evidence. I don't live in a box, nor do i intake any 'state fed propaganda' and i certainly don't have tunnel vision (that is what someone who believes all the media is state propaganda is suffering from) I believe in things that are proven to me, not things that support any political or social agenda whether they are true or not. Title: Re: DO POKER GODS EXIST? Post by: BigTomatoes on April 26, 2007, 09:35:39 PM somebody is yet to prove to me the official version of things , and i have seen and read and studied so much material to the contrary i now consider the story weve been told as the conspiracy , but whatever , we could go round and round in circles all day. ;stickaforkinme; anyway were getting off topic again i dont believe in poker gods as such mantis i do play by feel a lot of the time , but i also know my odds and calculate pot odds etc in different situations. sometimes you have to go with your read , sometimes if your getting 10 to 1 on a pot you call with any 2 theres so many situations come up in poker , thats why we never get bored , thats why were all addicted to it. there is definitely luck involved , and as such , bad luck is involved , but i dont think it is due to some River Buddha deciding if you have good or bad Karma or wether your going to get 2 outered on a river. that im afraid is just mathematical and comes down to the deck of cards and the randomness of the shuffle etc thats my opinion anyway Title: Re: DO POKER GODS EXIST? Post by: Maddog on April 27, 2007, 11:21:35 AM I think my wife may be one of the poker deity's incarnations on earth. Whenever she starts talking, i start losing.
Title: Re: DO POKER GODS EXIST? Post by: Muahahahaha on April 27, 2007, 01:51:51 PM ....there is definitely luck involved , and as such , bad luck is involved , but i dont think it is due to some River Buddha deciding........... that im afraid is just mathematical thats my opinion anyway So you're saying it's not the Gods of Poker. It's the freaking Gods of Maths !!!!!. Oh Christ, all those virgins I've sacrificed - wasted. What the hell do the Maths Gods accept as a sacrifice ?? Title: Re: DO POKER GODS EXIST? Post by: JungleCat03 on April 27, 2007, 02:21:47 PM ....there is definitely luck involved , and as such , bad luck is involved , but i dont think it is due to some River Buddha deciding........... that im afraid is just mathematical thats my opinion anyway So you're saying it's not the Gods of Poker. It's the freaking Gods of Maths !!!!!. Oh Christ, all those virgins I've sacrificed - wasted. What the hell do the Maths Gods accept as a sacrifice ?? I think their only requirement is you beware false profits. Title: Re: DO POKER GODS EXIST? Post by: freddieflintstone on April 27, 2007, 02:34:59 PM if you want to see some videos , i could show you hundreds. if you want to stay in your box , and believe your media / state fed propaganda tunnel vision views thats up to you either way , i couldnt really care. i know what i believe , if you believe otherwise thats your perogative. no need for the petty replies , snidy comments which your becoming famous for. i cant decide if your like a broken record or an old lady at the bingo bitching about her next door neigbour BE careFULL, I am watching for subversives in my bunker in HemeL Title: Re: DO POKER GODS EXIST? Post by: kinboshi on April 27, 2007, 02:51:26 PM ....there is definitely luck involved , and as such , bad luck is involved , but i dont think it is due to some River Buddha deciding........... that im afraid is just mathematical thats my opinion anyway So you're saying it's not the Gods of Poker. It's the freaking Gods of Maths !!!!!. Oh Christ, all those virgins I've sacrificed - wasted. What the hell do the Maths Gods accept as a sacrifice ?? Normal distribution bell-shaped curves. Title: Re: DO POKER GODS EXIST? Post by: BigTomatoes on April 28, 2007, 12:29:45 AM if you want to see some videos , i could show you hundreds. if you want to stay in your box , and believe your media / state fed propaganda tunnel vision views thats up to you either way , i couldnt really care. i know what i believe , if you believe otherwise thats your perogative. no need for the petty replies , snidy comments which your becoming famous for. i cant decide if your like a broken record or an old lady at the bingo bitching about her next door neigbour BE careFULL, I am watching for subversives in my bunker in HemeL you must be having a blast |