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Title: Poker Night Live
Post by: johnbhoy76 on April 24, 2007, 09:31:32 PM
just read on the Pokerzone forum that PNL will air it's last show on 31st May.

a sad day   :'(


Title: Re: Poker Night Live
Post by: tikay on April 24, 2007, 09:42:42 PM

Yes, a sad day. We were all contacted personally by Sam Orams yesterday to tell us the news - very good of him to tell us all one-to-one I thought.

The shows will contunue as normal until the end of Apri, & it will be "repeats" in May.

Basically, they could not find enough sponsors for the show, & it's been a bit of a struggle the last few months.

The intimacy of the show, & the freedom which the Presenters of the show were given, made it a hugely enjoyable experience. Rescue attempts are in hand, & let's hope they succeed.


Title: Re: Poker Night Live
Post by: maccol on April 24, 2007, 11:03:36 PM
I will be very sorry to see this programme go.
It helped my education in the game so much and had a good mix of presenters with differing playing styles.
Cas and Nicks "discussions" were worth watching even when poker was the last thing on their minds.

Hope it can be saved in some form.


Title: Re: Poker Night Live
Post by: technolog on April 24, 2007, 11:53:04 PM
Gutted, just gutted.


Title: Re: Poker Night Live
Post by: Colchester Kev on April 24, 2007, 11:55:58 PM
Indestructable is receiving counselling due to the show closing..... it ranks alongside 321 and the golden shot as programmes that he will never be able to appear on.... Get well soon Ed :)


Title: Re: Poker Night Live
Post by: scottm on April 24, 2007, 11:59:08 PM
Indestructable is receiving counselling due to the show closing..... it ranks alongside 321 and the golden shot as programmes that he will never be able to appear on.... Get well soon Ed :)

 rotflmfao rotflmfao


Title: Re: Poker Night Live
Post by: Indestructable on April 25, 2007, 06:49:06 AM
Indestructable is receiving counselling due to the show closing..... it ranks alongside 321 and the golden shot as programmes that he will never be able to appear on.... Get well soon Ed :)

You are not wrong. :)up

Absolutely gutted. The writing was on the wall with various repeats and on one day and not the next which left viewers including me not knowing when to watch. Had hoped that they could find a solution, but never really understood how the channel could actually make money.
Sad news indeed.
 :'(


Title: Re: Poker Night Live
Post by: Muahahahaha on April 25, 2007, 11:23:59 AM
It was because of PNL that I first saw Tikay.

It was one of those good news / bad news days.

The good news - If I hadn't seen Tikay on PNL, I'd never have come over here, & bumped into all you great people.

The bad news - I saw Tikay.  Nightmares for weeks.

joking.

JOKING, I say.

It is a sad day though.  This is probably a blimmin stupid question, but how much does a program like pnl cost.  I mean, they seemed to be doing ok, until Tikay came along with his inflated wages.  Three months later, they're in financial doodoo.

Tony Kendal - the Terry Venables of the poker world.

( Is Tk down for a final show ?  If so, how about a few of the blonde guys & gals taking over the MTT for the night & showing them how the game should be played )


Title: Re: Poker Night Live
Post by: Acidmouse on April 25, 2007, 12:18:48 PM
I am not surprised, PNL didn't really evolve and move with the times, hope all the presenters find equivalent slots :)


Title: Re: Poker Night Live
Post by: Royal Flush on April 25, 2007, 02:49:32 PM
If so, how about a few of the blonde guys & gals taking over the MTT for the night & showing them how the game should be played )

Limp passing to victory.


Title: Re: Poker Night Live
Post by: deputydawg on April 25, 2007, 03:30:01 PM
Absolutely gutted about this as it's one of my favourite programmes. Lets hope the Sky Open makes more use of the PNL presenters rather than ex comedians (no disrespect intended) and focuses a bit more on the theory rather than just commentary as tends to be the case now


Title: Re: Poker Night Live
Post by: fearisthekey on April 25, 2007, 03:32:49 PM
Absolutely gutted about this as it's one of my favourite programmes. Lets hope the Sky Open makes more use of the PNL presenters rather than ex comedians (no disrespect intended) and focuses a bit more on the theory rather than just commentary as tends to be the case now
Gutted also.

The show was really great, they avoided the temptation to talk a lot of crap and put in a lot of good theory and a great mix of programs, I would personally sign up to any site they were sponsored by just to keep it running.

So much bad commentary elsewhere on poker telly.

Heads up one player holds  Ahrt 4h "Not sure where he's hoping to get by calling with that" (Errr nut flush maybe?)
Flop
 7d 8h Kh
"The flop has come 7, 8, King. (I know, I can see it) "No help for either player" (Er nut flush draw player helped maybe?)
 ;frustrated; ;frustrated;

If Michelle is out of a job at the moment tell her my massage therapist has gone on sabbatical...


Title: Re: Poker Night Live
Post by: tikay on April 25, 2007, 04:00:12 PM

Tony Kendal - the Terry Venables of the poker world. (It's Kendall" with two "L's". Think "balls").

The absolute ultimate in back-handed compliments. Venables is a God in the bull**** department, shady in his financial dealings, & gets paid an arm & a leg for doing naff all. I guess you rumbled me then.

I actually well remember Terry Venables when he was playing, initially for Chelsea, then at QPR. Lovely player, with a deft touch. Crap manager though, in the Ferguson/Keegan/Mourinho mould - "give me x millions & I'll buy you some trophies". Give me a Curbushley/Alec Stock/Allardyce any day. Proper Managers them.


Title: Re: Poker Night Live
Post by: Colchester Kev on April 25, 2007, 04:02:17 PM

Tony Kendal - the Terry Venables of the poker world. (It's Kendall" with two "L's". Think "balls").

The absolute ultimate in back-handed compliments. Venables is a God in the bull**** department, shady in his financial dealings, & gets paid an arm & a leg for doing naff all. I guess you rumbled me then.

I actually well remember Terry Venables when he was playing, initially for Chelsea, then at QPR. Lovely player, with a deft touch. Crap manager though, in the Ferguson/Keegan/Mourinho mould - "give me x millions & I'll buy you some trophies". Give me a Curbushley/Alec Stock/Allardyce any day. Proper Managers them.

Venables...crap manager ?? sigh that shows you up for being a brentford fan ... you obv know naff all about football.


Title: Re: Poker Night Live
Post by: Rod Paradise on April 25, 2007, 04:02:52 PM
Venables is a God in the bull**** department, shady in his financial dealings, & gets paid an arm & a leg for doing naff all. I guess you rumbled me then.

I actually well remember Terry Venables when he was playing, initially for Chelsea, then at QPR. Lovely player, with a deft touch. Crap manager though, in the Ferguson/Keegan/Mourinho mould - "give me x millions & I'll buy you some trophies". Give me a Curbushley/Alec Stock/Allardyce any day. Proper Managers them.

 :o ;whistle;


Title: Re: Poker Night Live
Post by: Ironside on April 25, 2007, 04:03:44 PM
come on tikay as much as i dislike ferguson for being a ************************************* he know how to mange
he took aberdeen with no budget to the best team in europe

he also know how to nuture players to get best out of them unlike what goes on at most clubs his kids dont seem to go off the rail


Title: Re: Poker Night Live
Post by: Rod Paradise on April 25, 2007, 04:04:39 PM
come on tikay as much as i dislike ferguson for being a ************************************* he know how to mange
he took aberdeen with no budget to the best team in europe

he also know how to nuture players to get best out of them unlike what goes on at most clubs his kids dont seem to go off the rail

Ironside in good point shocker!!!!!!


Title: Re: Poker Night Live
Post by: tikay on April 25, 2007, 04:04:49 PM

Tony Kendal - the Terry Venables of the poker world. (It's Kendall" with two "L's". Think "balls").

The absolute ultimate in back-handed compliments. Venables is a God in the bull**** department, shady in his financial dealings, & gets paid an arm & a leg for doing naff all. I guess you rumbled me then.

I actually well remember Terry Venables when he was playing, initially for Chelsea, then at QPR. Lovely player, with a deft touch. Crap manager though, in the Ferguson/Keegan/Mourinho mould - "give me x millions & I'll buy you some trophies". Give me a Curbushley/Alec Stock/Allardyce any day. Proper Managers them.

Venables...crap manager ?? sigh that shows you up for being a brentford fan ... you obv know naff all about football.


Yes, "crap Manager". Smeared by association with the wrong North London Team, too. Until he arrived, Spurs were the kings of North London, now Arsenal Rule.


Title: Re: Poker Night Live
Post by: Colchester Kev on April 25, 2007, 04:05:47 PM
Keith Burkinshaw was a proper manager, never took any shit from the money men and did it his way. met him too....smashing bloke and very down to earth.


Title: Re: Poker Night Live
Post by: tikay on April 25, 2007, 04:10:18 PM
come on tikay as much as i dislike ferguson for being a ************************************* he know how to mange
he took aberdeen with no budget to the best team in europe

he also know how to nuture players to get best out of them unlike what goes on at most clubs his kids dont seem to go off the rail

10 years ago, yes. Now, no, he's just a fat cat. Give me the budget he & Mourinho has & I'll buy any team a few trophies.

Look for the guys that can do it on person-skills, not by flinging cheques around.


Title: Re: Poker Night Live
Post by: Ironside on April 25, 2007, 04:14:38 PM
how many other managers do you think could of gotten as much out of ronaldo this season after the world cup and every fan in england including man u fan hating his guts

not many people thought he would play for man u again but alex has helped the guy become superstar

i hate fergie but i admire his talent


Title: Re: Poker Night Live
Post by: RichD on April 25, 2007, 04:17:49 PM
how many other managers do you think could of gotten as much out of ronaldo this season after the world cup and every fan in england including man u fan hating his guts

not many people thought he would play for man u again but alex has helped the guy become superstar

i hate fergie but i admire his talent

Surely Ronaldo has done that himself?


Title: Re: Poker Night Live
Post by: Ironside on April 25, 2007, 04:21:34 PM
he got the right guidedance from fergie just as cantona did when it looked like he would never play again in england

look what happens at otehr teams

anelka, bowyer etc etc

someone tell me the last person to go off the rails at man u?


Title: Re: Poker Night Live
Post by: tikay on April 25, 2007, 05:16:33 PM
he got the right guidedance from fergie just as cantona did when it looked like he would never play again in england

look what happens at otehr teams

anelka, bowyer etc etc

someone tell me the last person to go off the rails at man u?

Jaap Stam.

That naff goalie - Mark Bosnich was it?.

Rio Ferdinand.

Ruud van Nistelrooy.

Eric Cantona


Title: Re: Poker Night Live
Post by: tikay on April 25, 2007, 05:21:09 PM
how many other managers do you think could of gotten as much out of ronaldo this season after the world cup and every fan in england including man u fan hating his guts

not many people thought he would play for man u again but alex has helped the guy become superstar

i hate fergie but i admire his talent

It needs a Manager to persuade a talent like that to perform? Nope, just a big cheque book.

Tommy Higginson & Peter Gelson (Brentford Legends) never needed mollycoddling.


Title: Re: Poker Night Live
Post by: Ironside on April 25, 2007, 05:21:31 PM
sorry must of missed what jap stam did while at man u
bosnich was at chelsea when he took the coke
rio ferdinand fergie cant watch him 24/7 i think reminding players they have a drugs test is enough evenfergie canforsee that stupidity
ruud van nistleroy just got hacked off cause he wasnt good enough to comand 2 games a week cant blame fergie there
cantona blew up fergie rehabilted him


Title: Re: Poker Night Live
Post by: Longy on April 25, 2007, 05:22:10 PM
Erm and the point about Mourinho is that he won the champions league and uefa cup with porto with no money relative to other teams in the competition. Both are now managers of top teams as they have proved themselves elsewhere, as with alot of things the top managers are with the top teams this is no coincedence.

Tikay I would bet you any money you couldn't manage Chelsea and Man Utd to anywhere near the success of their current managers and to say so is flippant and wrong.



Title: Re: Poker Night Live
Post by: Ironside on April 25, 2007, 05:22:29 PM
how many other managers do you think could of gotten as much out of ronaldo this season after the world cup and every fan in england including man u fan hating his guts

not many people thought he would play for man u again but alex has helped the guy become superstar

i hate fergie but i admire his talent

It needs a Manager to persuade a talent like that to perform? Nope, just a big cheque book.

Tommy Higginson & Peter Gelson (Brentford Legends) never needed mollycoddling.

maybe if they had fergie as a manger they would be in the premiership and not the confernece south


Title: Re: Poker Night Live
Post by: tikay on April 25, 2007, 05:23:18 PM
sorry must of missed what jap stam did while at man u
bosnich was at chelsea when he took the coke
rio ferdinand fergie cant watch him 24/7 i think reminding players they have a drugs test is enough evenfergie canforsee that stupidity
ruud van nistleroy just got hacked off cause he wasnt good enough to comand 2 games a week cant blame fergie there
cantona blew up fergie rehabilted him

I asssume you are conceding defeat, if that is your rebuttal!


Title: Re: Poker Night Live
Post by: Ironside on April 25, 2007, 05:24:35 PM

Tikay I would bet you any money you couldn't mangage Chelsea and Man Utd to anywhere near the success of their current managers and to say so is flippant and wrong.



i've taken scunthorpe,welling,aberdeen and elgin to CL success so i can say its easy

and i didnt have ther emoney


Title: Re: Poker Night Live
Post by: tikay on April 25, 2007, 05:26:45 PM
Erm and the point about Mourinho is that he won the champions league and uefa cup with porto with no money relative to other teams in the competition. Both are now managers of top teams as they have proved themselves elsewhere, as with alot of things the top managers are with the top teams this is no coincedence.

Tikay I would bet you any money you couldn't mangage Chelsea and Man Utd to anywhere near the success of their current managers and to say so is flippant and wrong.


Well yes, it was flippant, & it was wrong, but I was making a point. Management success via the Cheque Book does not impress me, not one iota. In the days of Bob Lord at Burnley it worked the other way round. Breed players, scout for them, "make them", survive in the top flight AND sell all the talent they discovered & nurtured.


Title: Re: Poker Night Live
Post by: Ironside on April 25, 2007, 05:28:17 PM
Erm and the point about Mourinho is that he won the champions league and uefa cup with porto with no money relative to other teams in the competition. Both are now managers of top teams as they have proved themselves elsewhere, as with alot of things the top managers are with the top teams this is no coincedence.

Tikay I would bet you any money you couldn't mangage Chelsea and Man Utd to anywhere near the success of their current managers and to say so is flippant and wrong.


Well yes, it was flippant, & it was wrong, but I was making a point. Management success via the Cheque Book does not impress me, not one iota. In the days of Bob Lord at Burnley it worked the other way round. Breed players, scout for them, "make them", survive in the top flight AND sell all the talent they discovered & nurtured.

you've just discribed a good coaching system not a good manager


Title: Re: Poker Night Live
Post by: Snatiramas on April 25, 2007, 05:34:04 PM
When did this become a football thread then...............


Title: Re: Poker Night Live
Post by: Ironside on April 25, 2007, 05:35:18 PM
the good old days whe a thread used to have 6 or 7 topics lol


Title: Re: Poker Night Live
Post by: tikay on April 25, 2007, 05:35:45 PM
When did this become a football thread then...............

Hush now snati. These football fans get a bit sensitive. I'd sit out if I were you. I thought I'd just wind 'em up & then go offline. Toodle pip.......


Title: Re: Poker Night Live
Post by: Muahahahaha on April 25, 2007, 10:04:08 PM
I thought I'd just wind 'em up & then go. Toodle pip.......

See

Terry Venables all over.





And for all you Fergie fans.  I hope you give daily homage to that great Liverpool team of 1990.  If they had taken Palace seriously in the semi, it wouldn't have been such a rediculous final.  Man U in those days didn't have the bottle to beat Liverpool.  They only just scraped past a team they should have stuffed.  That was Fergies last chance, and good on the guy, he grabbed it with both hands.

English football today would be totally different if only Liverpool could defend when it matters.

Some things just don't change.


Title: Re: Poker Night Live
Post by: Indestructable on April 25, 2007, 10:09:26 PM
James Browning has announced on tonight's show that as well as PNL finishing that this is his last show ever.
I have always found him an entertaining and informative presenter and must admit to feeling a little  :(

Good luck for the future James
 :)up


Title: Re: Poker Night Live
Post by: maccol on April 26, 2007, 02:29:11 AM
well done technolog in the MTT
very  unlucky HU


Title: Re: Poker Night Live
Post by: Mango99 on April 26, 2007, 10:44:28 AM
James Browning has announced on tonight's show that as well as PNL finishing that this is his last show ever.
I have always found him an entertaining and informative presenter and must admit to feeling a little  :(

Good luck for the future James
 :)up

Gutted. PNL was a great show, and James is a top bloke. Good luck for the future!


Title: Re: Poker Night Live
Post by: technolog on April 26, 2007, 11:13:10 PM
well done technolog in the MTT
very  unlucky HU

Thanks maccol!

Yes I thought I was a tad unfortunate - that poker table would have looked nice in my lounge! Were you in the tourney last night?


Title: Re: Poker Night Live
Post by: johnbhoy76 on April 26, 2007, 11:57:55 PM
Erm and the point about Mourinho is that he won the champions league and uefa cup with porto with no money relative to other teams in the competition. Both are now managers of top teams as they have proved themselves elsewhere, as with alot of things the top managers are with the top teams this is no coincedence.

Tikay I would bet you any money you couldn't mangage Chelsea and Man Utd to anywhere near the success of their current managers and to say so is flippant and wrong.


Well yes, it was flippant, & it was wrong, but I was making a point. Management success via the Cheque Book does not impress me, not one iota. In the days of Bob Lord at Burnley it worked the other way round. Breed players, scout for them, "make them", survive in the top flight AND sell all the talent they discovered & nurtured.

But Surely Ferguson proved he could do that with St Mirren and even more so with Aberdeen

and Mourinho proved he could work on a small budget with Porto and won back to back European trophies (UEFA Cup 2003 & Champions League 2004) which for a team from such a small country is a staggering achievement in the modern era.

Ferguson & Mourinho have more than earned their stripes with smaller clubs Hence the reason the big boys came looking for their services.

Man Utd had gone more than 20 years without winning the title before Ferguson arrived so it can't have been that easy a job to manage Man Utd can it?