Title: Mayweather v De La Hoya Post by: ACE2M on May 01, 2007, 12:01:23 PM Any thoughts?
Will this be the big boost for boxing they are all hoping for? Has boxing killed itself by spreading to thin? I can't really see this going the distance? Title: Re: Mayweather v De La Hoya Post by: kinboshi on May 01, 2007, 12:08:30 PM Any thoughts? It's going to be a cracking spectacle - hopefully the fight is too.Will this be the big boost for boxing they are all hoping for? Quote Has boxing killed itself by spreading to thin? Too many organisations, too many world champions. Not enough superfights (the fighters are there, they're just with different promoters/organisations).Quote I can't really see this going the distance? Not sure really. Depends how they come out to fight. De La Hoya will want to get in close and tie Mayweather up. Mayweather might opt to try and box at distance. Mayweather must be a decent favourite, so it's worth a punt on De La Hoya.Title: Re: Mayweather v De La Hoya Post by: Bazzaboy on May 01, 2007, 12:09:29 PM I think this will be a bit of an anti-climax. I see Mayweather taking a cautious approach and using his skills to take a comfortable points win. It definbetly won't be a toe to toe scrap. DLH does have the edge in power though and will be naturally stronger at the weight having fought at 154 since 2001 whereas PBF is making the step up for the 1st time (and has looked less effective each time he has stepped up a weight), so he is not without a chance.
Title: Re: Mayweather v De La Hoya Post by: ACE2M on May 01, 2007, 12:10:09 PM just found this http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=s4oJsSnmGkw
quite funny. nothing to do with this fight but made me laugh. i would have legged it. Title: Re: Mayweather v De La Hoya Post by: matt674 on May 01, 2007, 01:13:50 PM just found this http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=s4oJsSnmGkw quite funny. nothing to do with this fight but made me laugh. i would have legged it. rotflmfao Title: Re: Mayweather v De La Hoya Post by: AdamM on May 01, 2007, 01:50:18 PM I will be shouting my lungs out for De la Hoya. as a MMA fan I've been annoyed by Mayweathers disrespectful comments towards the sport and it's athletes. He's been offered $1M of the UFC presidents own money to fight Chuck Liddell but he'd never do it.
De La Hoya however, trains with and promoted MMA fighters and is highly respectful of the sport. go on golden boy Title: Re: Mayweather v De La Hoya Post by: cambo on May 01, 2007, 02:27:39 PM I will be shouting my lungs out for De la Hoya. as a MMA fan I've been annoyed by Mayweathers disrespectful comments towards the sport and it's athletes. He's been offered $1M of the UFC presidents own money to fight Chuck Liddell but he'd never do it. De La Hoya however, trains with and promoted MMA fighters and is highly respectful of the sport. go on golden boy the level of disrespect shown by mayweather in the build up to the fight has been incredible. i really hope de la hoya wins. been looking forward to the fight for ages hope its not a let down Title: Re: Mayweather v De La Hoya Post by: kinboshi on May 01, 2007, 02:36:21 PM Mayweather shows little respect for anyone. That is why he is generally disliked. Of course, as a boxer he is world class.
Title: Re: Mayweather v De La Hoya Post by: Nakor on May 04, 2007, 07:48:51 PM I assume this is a Box Office promotion tomorrow ?
Ahh SS1 I see - surprised I am. Title: Re: Mayweather v De La Hoya Post by: Sark79 on May 05, 2007, 09:22:44 AM I want De La Hoya to win, I have always liked him. But I feel this may be a step too far and he will get beaten. Hopefully I am wrong though, I will be supporting de la hoya for sure
Title: Re: Mayweather v De La Hoya Post by: Nakor on May 05, 2007, 09:43:35 AM Just seen some clips of last nights weigh in - PBF looks pensive, almost nervous then the bravado kicked in and all looked fine. But with Hagler et al all running on about fights being won in the build up I do wonder - I can't think of a fight that PBF has ever gone into before where he could have ever faced self doubt, he has always had ultimate belief in his ability, and believed he was far superior to his opponents, maybe this one is different.
Can't wait for this fight for me I want Oscar to win, but it will be a cracker, don't expect Oscar to chase him round the ring, try and draw him into a slug fest and let his size and power tell. I am always nervous for boxers stepping up, but I guess PBF is no ordinary boxer. Too close to call but I will go Oscar - but a fine battle it will be. Still can't get my around Sky giving this away for free (well ish). Title: Re: Mayweather v De La Hoya Post by: AndrewT on May 05, 2007, 01:55:40 PM Mayweather shows little respect for anyone. That is why he is generally disliked. Of course, as a boxer he is world class. Bear in mind that, as part of the endless promotion for this fight, the fighters have happily played up to their good guy/bad guy stereotypes. Every time Mayweather mouths off about something, it makes the TV news, and more people signup to watch the fight. Title: Re: Mayweather v De La Hoya Post by: kinboshi on May 05, 2007, 01:58:39 PM Mayweather shows little respect for anyone. That is why he is generally disliked. Of course, as a boxer he is world class. Bear in mind that, as part of the endless promotion for this fight, the fighters have happily played up to their good guy/bad guy stereotypes. Every time Mayweather mouths off about something, it makes the TV news, and more people signup to watch the fight. I agree about the build-up - it's just pantomime. I was talking about Mayweather in general though, he's just an unpleasant individual. Brilliantly talented boxer, just don't like him as a person. Title: Re: Mayweather v De La Hoya Post by: AdamM on May 05, 2007, 02:52:40 PM I agree. Maywesther isn't playing a part. he's a thouroughly unpleasant individual
Title: Re: Mayweather v De La Hoya Post by: I KNOW IT on May 05, 2007, 10:39:41 PM Is this available to watch online?
Title: Re: Mayweather v De La Hoya Post by: lazaroonie on May 05, 2007, 11:45:35 PM I will be shouting my lungs out for De la Hoya. as a MMA fan I've been annoyed by Mayweathers disrespectful comments towards the sport and it's athletes. He's been offered $1M of the UFC presidents own money to fight Chuck Liddell but he'd never do it. De La Hoya however, trains with and promoted MMA fighters and is highly respectful of the sport. go on golden boy What is MMA ? Title: Re: Mayweather v De La Hoya Post by: Longy on May 05, 2007, 11:55:10 PM Laz, mixed martial arts i believe (i learnt that one today as well).
While i think Mayweather will run rings round Oscar and win comfortably on points. I hope Golden boy beats him to a pulp, i will be supporting Oscar like I would Hatton in a big fight. Looking forward to this one, first mega fight for a while. Title: Re: Mayweather v De La Hoya Post by: AdamM on May 06, 2007, 09:38:07 AM thats right, MMA = Mixed Martial Arts, ie UFC, Pride, Cage Rage, etc
I had it 115 De La Hoya 114 Mayweather tonight gave mayweather 1,5,10,11,12 with a share of 8 12th was almost a draw which would make it 116/114. how a judge gives it 112/116 I don't know but there were a few close rounds. Thought overall De La Hoya looked a much better fighter. Title: Re: Mayweather v De La Hoya Post by: dan on May 06, 2007, 09:46:53 AM I thought it was very close and agree with Adam, cant see how 1 judge gave 112-116.
115-113 either way or 114-114 i thought was about right. good fight though. I'm absolutley knackered now though had just 3 1/2 hours sleep now im off to watch the mighty gunners wreck Chelsea's and Cashley cole's title dream, although i dont think the little botterler will play. Title: Re: Mayweather v De La Hoya Post by: AdamM on May 06, 2007, 09:48:26 AM it was on at 8am, why didnt you watch it then?
c'mon Arsenal Title: Re: Mayweather v De La Hoya Post by: Bazzaboy on May 06, 2007, 11:09:29 AM I had it to Mayweather by 2 (115-113). it was a closer and better fight than I anticipated but PBF's strong finish saw him edge it imo.
Title: Re: Mayweather v De La Hoya Post by: AdamM on May 06, 2007, 12:27:06 PM remember which you gave to mayweather?
Title: Re: Mayweather v De La Hoya Post by: Bazzaboy on May 06, 2007, 12:35:29 PM remember which you gave to mayweather? I think I gave him 1,5,7,8,10,11,12 (not 100% sure though, will watch it again later) Title: Re: Mayweather v De La Hoya Post by: AdamM on May 06, 2007, 12:46:18 PM looks about right. my guess it the 6 rather than 7 was the close one you gave to mayweather. It's the one me and Watt disagreed on (normally I disagree with far more than that with him) and 8 I gave as a draw and you went the other way (think I was voting that round with my heart).
subjective huh Title: Re: Mayweather v De La Hoya Post by: Bazzaboy on May 06, 2007, 01:20:49 PM looks about right. my guess it the 6 rather than 7 was the close one you gave to mayweather. It's the one me and Watt disagreed on (normally I disagree with far more than that with him) and 8 I gave as a draw and you went the other way (think I was voting that round with my heart). subjective huh Yeah you are probably right. A lot of the rounds were close, couldn't have argued had it gone either way. Felt a bit for DLH at the end as he had put everything into it. Title: Re: Mayweather v De La Hoya Post by: Graham C on May 06, 2007, 01:34:01 PM Cashley cole's title dream, although i dont think the little botterler will play. He's not apparently - being pulled to stop him getting abuse bless :D Title: Re: Mayweather v De La Hoya Post by: kinboshi on May 06, 2007, 07:35:29 PM De La Hoya was in front (on my card) with 4 rounds to go. Then he did what he's done a number of times in his career - and he ran out of steam. He did the same against Whitaker about 10 years ago, but the Golden Boy somehow got a ludicrous decision (wonder how?).
Mayweather struggled to impose his fight on De La Hoya, and it wasn't until De La Hoya tired that Mayweather could show his best skills. A good fight all told, just a shame De La Hoya wasn't 5 years younger and he might have been able to perform the full 12 rounds. Would love to see Hatton against Mayweather - but he won't take that fight. Too much to lose, and he knows it would be a very, very tough fight for him. Title: Re: Mayweather v De La Hoya Post by: AdamM on May 06, 2007, 07:38:17 PM finished as of last night isnt he?
Title: Re: Mayweather v De La Hoya Post by: kinboshi on May 06, 2007, 07:42:19 PM finished as of last night isnt he? Mayweather said he was done. But I don't always believe what he says. ;D Title: Re: Mayweather v De La Hoya Post by: AdamM on May 06, 2007, 07:46:06 PM true
I agree with you (though many dont) I think Hatton would give mayweather a nightmare. silky smooth fighters come unstuck against ferocious brawlers like Hatton and he can put in a 12th round as strong as his 1st. he actually trains for 15 full paced 1st rounds. will never happen though unfortunately Title: Re: Mayweather v De La Hoya Post by: kinboshi on May 06, 2007, 08:09:37 PM There are plenty who doubt Hatton's talent still.
Not only can he brawl well, he can actually box when he needs to, and like you said - he trains to fight hard for the full 12 (and beyond), something De La Hoya couldn't quite manage against Mayweather. Title: Re: Mayweather v De La Hoya Post by: Bazzaboy on May 06, 2007, 09:00:42 PM Hatton has toiled to last the 12 in his last two fights. Which admittedly is uncharacteristic of him, his lifestyle (ballooning in weight between fights) maybe catching up with him? I think that definetly has a part, and the fact he isnt fighting as regularly as he used to doesn't help (carrying the weight for longer).
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