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Title: early stt turbo - AJ Post by: temp0r on May 01, 2007, 02:30:39 PM SHOULD I BETTING SO HARD AFTER BEING CALLED ON THE FLOP?!?!
PokerStars Game #9696229917: Tournament #49207029, $15+$1 Hold'em No Limit - Level I (10/20) - 2007/05/01 - 09:24:15 (ET) Table '49207029 1' 9-max Seat #6 is the button Seat 1: BDawg08 (1440 in chips) Seat 2: niqlas (1490 in chips) Seat 3: crazycard (1220 in chips) Seat 4: neestle (1450 in chips) Seat 5: H_Vex (1560 in chips) Seat 6: ShePoke (1750 in chips) Seat 7: anaconda1234 (1590 in chips) Seat 8: Philipp01 (1500 in chips) Seat 9: temp0r2k (1500 in chips) anaconda1234: posts small blind 10 Philipp01: posts big blind 20 *** HOLE CARDS *** Dealt to temp0r2k [As Jd] temp0r2k: calls 20 BDawg08: folds niqlas: folds crazycard: folds neestle: folds H_Vex: folds ShePoke: folds anaconda1234: raises 40 to 60 Philipp01: calls 40 temp0r2k: calls 40 *** FLOP *** [9d Td Jh] anaconda1234: checks Philipp01: checks temp0r2k: bets 200 anaconda1234: folds Philipp01: calls 200 *** TURN *** [9d Td Jh] [4h] Philipp01: checks temp0r2k: bets 400 Philipp01: calls 400 *** RIVER *** [9d Td Jh 4h] [Qc] Philipp01: bets 200 temp0r2k: folds Philipp01 collected 1380 from pot Philipp01: doesn't show hand *** SUMMARY *** Total pot 1380 | Rake 0 Board [9d Td Jh 4h Qc] Seat 1: BDawg08 folded before Flop (didn't bet) Seat 2: niqlas folded before Flop (didn't bet) Seat 3: crazycard folded before Flop (didn't bet) Seat 4: neestle folded before Flop (didn't bet) Seat 5: H_Vex folded before Flop (didn't bet) Seat 6: ShePoke (button) folded before Flop (didn't bet) Seat 7: anaconda1234 (small blind) folded on the Flop Seat 8: Philipp01 (big blind) collected (1380) Seat 9: temp0r2k folded on the River Title: Re: early stt turbo - AJ Post by: I, Zimbra on May 01, 2007, 03:56:31 PM Flops like 9-T-J with a flush draw don't really encourage me to bet the A-J on level one. You can lose a lot of chips if someone has K-Q, you can lose a lot of chips if someone has Q-x and wants to chase (and hits), you can lose a lot of chips if someone has T-J or 9-J (standard), you can lose a lot of chips if someone has Ad Kd and chases, you can chop/lose if someone has Ad-J and freerolls for runner runner, you can lose a lot of chips if someone has K-K and plays it to the hilt.
Or you can win a very few chips if nobody has anything. Once in a while someone will pay you off with K-J (or similar), but even with TPTK, I don't like this flop. Title: Re: early stt turbo - AJ Post by: temp0r on May 01, 2007, 05:05:05 PM i didn't give him credit for a big hand given the fact he only called a small raise on his BB in position in what would be at most a 3 way pot. this is why i bet hard on the turn. i think KK/QQ was out of the question.
Title: Re: early stt turbo - AJ Post by: I, Zimbra on May 01, 2007, 05:16:25 PM how about 8-8, 9-9 T-T, J-J, J-Q, J-9, J-T, K-Q, or A-x suited in diamonds?
The point is not just that you may already be behind on that flop, but that with that flop there are so many ways to get sucked out on. If it's late on in a comp (e.g. STT L4 or 5) and there is enough in the middle to justify moving all-in on the flop then I'd probably do it. But this is L1, there are 180 chips in the middle, you still have 1440 in your stack and even if your hand is good there sooooo many cards you don't want to hit on the next two streets: any king, queen, ten, nine, eight, seven or diamond is a potential disaster. |