Title: Slowrolling Post by: Dingdell on May 09, 2007, 12:04:37 AM Playing in £250 f/o at Sportsman on Monday I pushed all in with pair of nines with a possible straight draw. A slightly rash move for me but I was not playing my A game.....
My opponent mulled and decided he was priced in so called. I turned over my pocket pair and he then proceeded to study the board while discussing with himself my hand and my play. He did not turn his cards over for an age and when he did he had top pair with ace kicker (A 10) and was therefore winning the hand at that time which should have been very obvious to him when I turned my nines over. He won the hand and I was out. Obviously annoyed at myself and my play but my question is: Was this bad etiquette on his part? Dealer should have made him turn over his cards straight away but he was new and not sure what to do. I don't know either. What would others do in that situation? Title: Re: Slowrolling Post by: action man on May 09, 2007, 12:14:44 AM sounds like a genuine mistake to me, brush it off and get on with life
Title: Re: Slowrolling Post by: Dingdell on May 09, 2007, 12:18:05 AM I should add he had been telling me about my play with each hand, predicting my cards each time and generally telling the table how to play, slowing the game down to a snails pace. This did colour my judgement of him for sure.
Title: Re: Slowrolling Post by: action man on May 09, 2007, 12:27:50 AM with the popularity of poker these days one must expect to sit with 'all walks of life' at the poker table. I believe that if you are able to shrugg off things like rubdowns and slowrolls, you will be able to keep a cool and calm temprement when others may tilt, i believe it is the player who is potentialy slowrolled/rubbed-down who must show their character in this situation. Stay cool, calm and collected.
Title: Re: Slowrolling Post by: edy g on May 09, 2007, 12:31:18 AM with the popularity of poker these days one must expect to sit with 'all walks of life' at the poker table. I believe that if you are able to shrugg off things like rubdowns and slowrolls, you will be able to keep a cool and calm temprement when others may tilt, i believe it is the player who is potentialy slowrolled/rubbed-down who must show their character in this situation. Stay cool, calm and collected. not 100 percent sure but to me this sounds like the thoughts of a long term winning poker player :goodpost: Title: Re: Slowrolling Post by: Wardonkey on May 09, 2007, 12:31:48 AM with the popularity of poker these days one must expect to sit with 'all walks of life' at the poker table. I believe that if you are able to shrugg off things like rubdowns and slowrolls, you will be able to keep a cool and calm temprement when others may tilt, i believe it is the player who is potentialy slowrolled/rubbed-down who must show their character in this situation. Stay cool, calm and collected. So sayeth The Claimer.... ::) Title: Re: Slowrolling Post by: TightEnd on May 09, 2007, 12:47:57 AM brain transplants in the Sheffield area are clearly to be welcomed.
Title: Re: Slowrolling Post by: Dingdell on May 09, 2007, 12:58:24 AM with the popularity of poker these days one must expect to sit with 'all walks of life' at the poker table. I believe that if you are able to shrugg off things like rubdowns and slowrolls, you will be able to keep a cool and calm temprement when others may tilt, i believe it is the player who is potentialy slowrolled/rubbed-down who must show their character in this situation. Stay cool, calm and collected. I had a cocktail does that count? ::) Title: Re: Slowrolling Post by: da_poker_monkey on May 09, 2007, 03:15:20 AM In the card room where I play it doesn't matter how you play a hand, slowroll or bet out, I guarantee that someone will complain and say something to the winner about how he/she played the hand wrong etc. It doesn't bother me, but like the post above says, there are lots of new players around now and they should be allowed to play their money however they wish. Not having a go at anyone here, prolly not even saying this in the right msg thread lol, but this is something that really annoys me and I need to rant (cheap therapy) I am always telling friends to go and have a night out playing poker but they are put off by the regulars and their attitudes to people who don't really know how to play. How do they expect the prize pools to stay healthy, and the numbers to stay up, if only regulars ever play eachother? (please feel free to delete this if it offends anyone) ;grr; ;yellowcard;
Title: Re: Slowrolling Post by: LeKnave on May 09, 2007, 03:26:55 AM In the card room where I play it doesn't matter how you play a hand, slowroll or bet out, I guarantee that someone will complain and say something to the winner about how he/she played the hand wrong etc. It doesn't bother me, but like the post above says, there are lots of new players around now and they should be allowed to play their money however they wish. Not having a go at anyone here, prolly not even saying this in the right msg thread lol, but this is something that really annoys me and I need to rant (cheap therapy) I am always telling friends to go and have a night out playing poker but they are put off by the regulars and their attitudes to people who don't really know how to play. How do they expect the prize pools to stay healthy, and the numbers to stay up, if only regulars ever play eachother? (please feel free to delete this if it offends anyone) ;grr; ;yellowcard; I think you're confusing slowrolling with slowplaying... Title: Re: Slowrolling Post by: da_poker_monkey on May 09, 2007, 03:30:20 AM Prolly, just saw the opportunity to get things off my chest lol
Title: Re: Slowrolling Post by: Royal Flush on May 09, 2007, 05:24:37 AM Yeah i got faced by a 1 minute dwell on Sunday night before my oppo called my all in with the nuts, it was a rather sizeable cash game pot, i was not best pleased!
Title: Re: Slowrolling Post by: edy g on May 09, 2007, 12:04:33 PM hi james,ronnie told me about that pot,do u really think that the guy who as you know looses 99 times out of 100 when he sits at the cash table did it on purpose?ive played with him many times,super nice guy,terrible player and im sure he was just checking his hand.
Title: Re: Slowrolling Post by: kinboshi on May 09, 2007, 12:29:06 PM hi james,ronnie told me about that pot,do u really think that the guy who as you know looses 99 times out of 100 when he sits at the cash table did it on purpose?ive played with him many times,super nice guy,terrible player and im sure he was just checking his hand. I think you've confused the two players. It wasn't James who was slowrolling... Title: Re: Slowrolling Post by: thediceman on May 09, 2007, 12:42:01 PM I was not best pleased when in Estonia when some Scandie decided to dwell after I had pushed on the flop and he spent a minute in what appeared to be talking himself into calling stating he put me on AK. What did he call with after his dwell, QQ, which went rather nicely with the QQ 5 flop.
Naturally I did have a quiet word with him during the break and told him I didn't really appreciate his actions. ;grr; Title: Re: Slowrolling Post by: Snatiramas on May 09, 2007, 01:31:24 PM I'm afraid you can't stop an idiot being an idiot...............smile and say nice hand. Part of what hurts in the slow roll scenario is that you managed to make the perfect play whilst being well behind.............it exacerbates the pain. As it says in Zen and the art of poker live each moment as an individual moment...........let it go.
Alternatively, smack the table, tell the bloke he is rude ignorant and generally all round rubbish player, I would have to say though that it serves you right for being in The Sportsman instead of being with us nice Luton people. Pays your money and takes your choice Title: Re: Slowrolling Post by: Acidmouse on May 09, 2007, 01:55:00 PM I had a similar thing at local last Friday.
£10 dc game with 50 peeps. One chap at our table who clearly plays at a much higher level normally, procceded to bore everyone with poker stories and telling us how to play hands, not to min raise, how to play sets etc this advice took place after and during hands. I found it highly amusing him telling me I should not min raise and he would auto call on BB everyday becasue of the pot odds (even tho the BB was yet to act). I just laughed at him and his comments, but I could see others just wanted to tell him to stfu. Title: Re: Slowrolling Post by: thedadi on May 09, 2007, 02:15:41 PM Nothing worse than having some1 who thinks he`s "quincy"
ie an autopsy of every hand! no wonder MP3 players are popular!! Title: Re: Slowrolling Post by: Royal Flush on May 09, 2007, 03:24:49 PM hi james,ronnie told me about that pot,do u really think that the guy who as you know looses 99 times out of 100 when he sits at the cash table did it on purpose?ive played with him many times,super nice guy,terrible player and im sure he was just checking his hand. Yeah i don't think there was anything malicious in it, it was still bloody annoying! Title: Re: Slowrolling Post by: kpnuts on May 10, 2007, 04:37:42 AM I was not best pleased when in Estonia when some Scandie decided to dwell after I had pushed on the flop and he spent a minute in what appeared to be talking himself into calling stating he put me on AK. What did he call with after his dwell, QQ, which went rather nicely with the QQ 5 flop. Naturally I did have a quiet word with him during the break and told him I didn't really appreciate his actions. ;grr; Before a recent trip to the Baltics, I'd only been slowrolled three times ever, once in the Venetian in Vegas and twice in Ireland. This Latvian gentleman, Juris Bonders (http://pokerdb.thehendonmob.com/player.php?a=r&n=3663) slowrolled me in a €5,300 PLO cash pot in Dublin's Jackpot Club during the recent Irish Open festival, so when I arrived in Mr Bonders' hometown of Riga three weeks ago to play some cards, I was gunning for revenge. Mr Bonders never showed for the £2-4 PLO game the first night we played in Riga's Olympic Voodoo Casino, but I soon learnt that slowrolling was de rigeur in those parts. They were ALL doing it, so I began to follow suit. When in Rome... By the end of the week, I had slowrolled Mr Bonders three times in tasty pots. I was also the biggest winner on the week's modest cashgames. Late on the Saturday night (our last night playing in Riga before moving on to Estonia), after Mr Bonders had downed a fair few cognacs, and shortly after I'd beaten him in yet another pot, he asked me to confirm I was from Dublin. I said I was. He then proceded to take out his thinning wallet, fished out his membership cards for Dublin's Jackpot Club, Merrion Club (R.I.P) and Fitzwilliam Club and tore up all three of them at the table! Apologies to Paddy Powers in advance if there is a diminished Baltic contingent for next year's Open! Title: Re: Slowrolling Post by: edy g on May 10, 2007, 11:40:31 AM hi james,ronnie told me about that pot,do u really think that the guy who as you know looses 99 times out of 100 when he sits at the cash table did it on purpose?ive played with him many times,super nice guy,terrible player and im sure he was just checking his hand. I think you've confused the two players. It wasn't James who was slowrolling... I think you are confused... |