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Title: West Ham Points Deduction or not
Post by: thedadi on May 14, 2007, 09:26:55 PM
Since Sheffield Utd & co are still griping bout West Ham, I pose the big Question 2 all blondites.
Does any1 kno of any precedence either in the premiership or anywhere else??


Title: Re: West Ham Points Deduction or not
Post by: Geo the Sarge on May 14, 2007, 09:36:00 PM
AFC Wimbledon were deducted points for fielding an illegible player

http://uk.sports.yahoo.com/26032007/2/photo/afc-wimbledon-s-points-deduction-slashed.html


Title: Re: West Ham Points Deduction or not
Post by: Sheriff Fatman on May 14, 2007, 09:38:16 PM
West Ham, kicked out of one of the cups a few years ago for fielding an ineligible (cup-tied) player.

Didn't get fined that time.


Title: Re: West Ham Points Deduction or not
Post by: fergus8 on May 14, 2007, 09:41:16 PM
but has the decision not already been made by the fa? end of.


Title: Re: West Ham Points Deduction or not
Post by: Sheriff Fatman on May 14, 2007, 09:43:17 PM
but has the decision not already been made by the fa? end of.

What?  Like Spurs 12 point deduction a few years ago?


Title: Re: West Ham Points Deduction or not
Post by: kinboshi on May 14, 2007, 11:08:51 PM
West Ham should have had points deducted, but... at least it means Neil Warnock is no longer a Premiership manager rotflmfao


Title: Re: West Ham Points Deduction or not
Post by: Graham C on May 14, 2007, 11:25:07 PM
I quite liked Warnock being in the Premiership, he comes out with some great stuff.  I'm a bit disapointed the Blades got relegated, but I'd rather have had West Ham stay up.   Ideally, for me, Wigan would have gone down.


Title: Re: West Ham Points Deduction or not
Post by: TightEnd on May 14, 2007, 11:37:43 PM
I think there is no doubt that if it was mid season when a decision had to be made they would have got a points deduction...a fine seemd to me an awful fudge.

whilst I do not think the decision will be overturned I have sympathy with Sheff Utd


Title: Re: West Ham Points Deduction or not
Post by: RioRodent on May 15, 2007, 07:01:07 AM
but has the decision not already been made by the fa? end of.

Perhaps if enough people vote 'Yes' on here the Premier League will review and change their decision!!

Maybe someone would also like to petition No 10? Here is a link to ePetitions - http://petitions.pm.gov.uk/

 ;whistle;


Title: Re: West Ham Points Deduction or not
Post by: kinboshi on May 15, 2007, 12:53:27 PM
Quote from: http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/football/eng_prem/6657697.stm
Fifa will investigate Tevez saga

Fifa is to investigate whether West Ham should have been docked points for breaching rules over the signings of Carlos Tevez and Javier Mascherano.

An independent commission fined West Ham £5.5m, but several clubs felt they were let off lightly.

Fifa president Sepp Blatter said: "We will look at this. We will ask for the file once it has been decided how and why the decision was made.

"If we feel something was wrong then we have to open our file."

Blatter said any decision "would have to be taken immediately".

He added that according to Fifa's files the transfer of Tevez and Mascherano from Brazilian side Corinthians to West Ham had complied with international transfer regulations


Title: Re: West Ham Points Deduction or not
Post by: Graham C on May 15, 2007, 01:05:53 PM
Regardless of whether or not the initial punishment was fair and correct, if FIFA step in and change things, it will make a total mockery of the FA.


Title: Re: West Ham Points Deduction or not
Post by: Sheriff Fatman on May 15, 2007, 01:24:07 PM
Regardless of whether or not the initial punishment was fair and correct, if FIFA step in and change things, it will make a total mockery of the FA.

That would be unusual in the sense that the FA don't normally need any outside help in this respect.


Title: Re: West Ham Points Deduction or not
Post by: AndrewT on May 15, 2007, 03:05:09 PM
In this season's FA Cup, Bury were kicked out for fielding an ineligible player.

Either everything was above board (in which case no punishment), or they broke the rules in signing him (in which case they should have lost every point from every game Tevez played in).


Title: Re: West Ham Points Deduction or not
Post by: Acidmouse on May 15, 2007, 03:12:13 PM
In the case of the Bury thing, they made a genuine mistake with the papers i believe BUT West Ham lied and tried to deceive.

So Bury got slaughtered and forfeited a game and therefor out of the FA CUP.


Title: Re: West Ham Points Deduction or not
Post by: thedadi on May 15, 2007, 08:24:59 PM
I don't kno  a great deal about it,but I thought it was a premiership rule bout 3rd party ownership of a player (whatever that means) thats why according to FIFA the transfer was above board, if so, is it not up 2 the premiership to invoke a suitable punishment
& how come Mascherano has now signed for Liverpool.


Title: Re: West Ham Points Deduction or not
Post by: The Baron on July 03, 2007, 05:34:36 PM
West Ham get away with it. A disgrace.

Even the panel admitted that they would have made a different decision. What a joke.


Title: Re: West Ham Points Deduction or not
Post by: Karabiner on July 03, 2007, 05:52:44 PM
It's definitely a cop-out imo, it would just have been too messy any other way.


Title: Re: West Ham Points Deduction or not
Post by: Rooky9 on July 03, 2007, 06:03:14 PM
I really wanted a Blades win for three reasons...
i) I think the signing was a bit dodgy
ii) We still dont do very well when we go away to London
iii) Neil Warnocks face when the club he resigned from, because he thinks 'there is a premiership club who would like neil warnock as a manager' and he feels he is 'a premiership manager now', was in the PL and he wasnt!!!!


Title: Re: West Ham Points Deduction or not
Post by: The Baron on July 03, 2007, 06:11:06 PM
LOL!


Title: Re: West Ham Points Deduction or not
Post by: bolt pp on July 03, 2007, 08:12:08 PM
I have sympathy with Sheff Utd

I dont, ALL the premier league clubs agreed how they would abide by a panel decission in such instances, sheff utd didnt like the outcome and are still banging on about it.


Title: Re: West Ham Points Deduction or not
Post by: Pelham Boy on July 03, 2007, 10:43:45 PM
What i want to know is,when Tevez gets sold who gets the money?

If its not West Ham then surely Sheff Utd have been hard done by.


Title: Re: West Ham Points Deduction or not
Post by: Bongo on July 03, 2007, 10:46:41 PM
I dont, ALL the premier league clubs agreed how they would abide by a panel decission in such instances, sheff utd didnt like the outcome and are still banging on about it.

And allegedly did an illegal deal themselves when they sold when of their strikers*

*I read this in The Times, something about having a "not playing against sheff utd" clause in the contract.