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I couldn't see another thread focusing on this match, so I thought I'd get the ball rolling as I'm too excited about the game to do any work...

Anyway, looking at the betting and Milan are a pretty strong favourite - stronger than I think they should be in a one-off final.  Obviously, as a Liverpool fan I'm biased, but what do other people think will happen?  Last time they met, everyone predicted a tight encounter, with the first one to score going on to win 1-0.  It didn't quite pan out that way, and will it be as unpredictable this time round?

So is it going to be number 7 for Milan, or will be singing 'we won it 6 times' at Anfield next season?

Also, has anyone seen any decent bets?  You can back Liverpool at 3.4 to keep a clean sheet in normal time - might be worth a bet, wouldn't have won you much last time round though.

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I almost hope Liverpool lose, never seen so many Liverpool fans come out of the woodwork since you won the semi :)

Lets face it Liverpool should get spanked, they are a good european football team, distinctly average domestic team. Milan are very astute and frankly twatted Man Utd.

I say 2 or 3-0 to Milan.

Just hoping for a good game and Milan to lift the cup to secure my sneeky five pound bet :)

I have a couple of Liverpool fan friends so I guess it would be nice for them if Liverpool did win but I'm going to have to insist they don't go on about it for ages :D

Don't care who wins..just hoping for a fantastic game.

Me neither as long as Liverpool win. 


Couldn't agree more, although I don't care if it's a boring 1-0 ground out win, as long as we win.

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I will be wanting Liverpool to win, but i dont really care as long as its a good game.

Milan have been hit form at the right time this season. They didn't play well until the second leg against Bayern but since then they've been awesome. Before that they loooked ordinary. Their team is no longer built around Shevchenko but around the amazing Kaka. In some ways they lack a goal threat at times (although not since playing Celtic), relying too heavily on Kaka but in other ways they look much more balanced as a team and miles better in midfield.

Personally I think they're going to be very tough to stop. Liverpool's European style is based around not letting the other team play. Vs Barcelona (or similar) it works very well, but against a Chelsea type team it makes for two teams cancelling each other out.

The key is curbing Kaka. Last time out Didi Hamann came on at half time and did the job to perfection. This time we need Alonso/Mascherano to do it from the off.

I see it being a tight game with only one between the sides and whoever scores first having a huge advantage.

It's hard to look past Milan but if there is one place they aren't the same as before it's at the back. People can say what they like about Maldini being one of the all time greats and Nesta being the rock of the Italian WC winning side but they look beatable, especially when Gattuso is not playing or playing well. If Gerrard pulls Gattuso out of his comfort zone we have a real chance.

I'm going to go for 2-1 Liverpool but then that's my heart talking....

Milan to win comfortably.


Come on Liverpool though!

liverpool will win ease, and keep a clean sheet.

mascherano on kaka, world class DM v world class AM, DM wins this battle 8/10 times

milan up front area miserable lot, no more shevchenko or more importantly the class predator that is crespo (prob the best in the world in the box)
instead they have the worst ive ever seen at that level in gilardino, really mince. inzaghi is a threat (hate this little ****)

at the back milan are poor, bar the outstanding nesta, and the keeper is worth a mistake or seven.

liverpool have such a solid defence , keeper is not topclass though

up front pool are weaker than most at this level, though id take kuyt and bellemy over gilardino and inzaghi

midfields are class on both sides

kaka pirlo gattuso seedorf vs gerrard alonso mascherano zenden.  Aspades Ks vs  Qh Qd

i think the bookies have got this wrong, 3.65 for liverpool. basically 5/2 after commision. 

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Wasn't that impressed with Milan against us & really couldn't see them getting to the final, we've definitely played better teams in the last few years.

Liverpool on the other hand have a system that works well in the CL & I've fancied them since they disposed of Barca.

The key to the game is Kaka, if he has an influence Milan will win but Rafa knows this will try to snuff him out.

Liverpool to sneak it although like most others I just want to see a proper game.

Liverpool for me have played the best "European" football throughout the competition. Agree that Milan have continually improved.

I believe however that Raffa will have it sussed yet again and Liverpool will take this.

If Milan win, it will be on pens after goaless game and extra time.

Geo

celtic were the toughest defence they have faced in the ko phase, says it all. liverpool with ease

Wish I had your confidence!!

Hope you're right though :)up

Just heard Pennant in a press conference.  It sounds like he's starting tomorrow.  If this is the case, then I'm delighted.  We play with a much better shape with Pennant wide rather than Gerrard.

;D

gone for Liverpool at half time, AC at 90 mins at 25/1

get to support each team for 45 mins.

Boooo.  Nowt personal, but I hope you lose your bet!  You should have gone for the other way round!

;D

Looking forward to this, I'll be rooting for Liverpool. I've gone for 2-1, .... oh & Gerard scores the 2 goals.

Gone for Gerrard to score anytime, Liverpool/AC Milan and AC Milan/Liverpool (HT/FT's)


Looking forward to it myself now :)

I Lost money betting with my heart not my head in the semi finals.
Milan have improved to be different class in this competition.
Gatusso dominating the midfield.
Kaka breezed past the MU defence.

Im on

 -  Milan 1st half / Miland 2nd half
 -  Milan 90mins
 -  Kaka to score

I agree with The baron that the Kaka/Mascherano midfield dual is key.

Assuming that Rafa picks Mascherano for the man-marking job ahead of Alonso which would appear likely, does that put a question mark over Xabi's future ?

I don't think Rafa will give anyone a man-marking role.  It's not how he sets the team up.  They mark zones rather than individuals.  So I see both Alonso and Mascherano picking up Kaka and Seedorf.

Hopefully, Mascherano's presence in the side will mean that Alonso isn't pinned back as far as he has been this season - allowing him to get further up the pitch and influence the attacks more.  Although I love Sissoko's work-ethic, he's a rough diamond and Mascherano is a class above him.  Obviously not good enough for the West Ham side though...

Pls pls dont play Harry Kewell, that skanky git don't deserve a big game.

If Zenden's not fit, I think Kewell will start.  Gonzalez just hasn't delivered on his promise, and with Aurelio out there isn't really anyone else (unless Pennant or Bellamy play out on the left?).

Kewell looked good when he came on against Charlton in terms of his fitness, and made an immediate impact.  Obviously, tonight's a little different - but I think we need him.

I hope Liverpool will win, but if Milan play anything like they did when they won 3-0 at home in the semis, then Liverpool have no chance.

Backed Milan to win 3-1, 3-0 and 2-0.

Should have gone 2-1 me thinks, liverpool will definately get on the scoresheet!

2-1 or 3-1 are my picks

That is also very possible.  But if we come back to win on penalties after a 3-3 draw I'll be happy!!

You can't trust Kewell and I think Rafa knows that. If Kewell starts liverpool is in trouble.

Not long to go, the pub is calling my name :D

hope liverpool win but think it will be milan will win 2-0 and sell the bookings

COME ON YOU RED MEN!!!

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Come on Liverpool!!

Picked them out the hat in the office sweep last September.


Come on...fifty notes for tinsel!!!

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well liverpool r looking stongish . milan look averagew but i think they seem a little nervous.stray passes for both teams.i think liverpool will sneak it.

FFS.

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For monetary reasons, please hang on Milan.
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For sanity reasons, please hang on Milan.
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just soiled myself laughing

Commentator "He's big, he's Red, his feet stick out the bed, peter crouch"   LOLOLOLOLOLOL

Super sub made and goal.

Well they scored more than us - so they get the win.

But if bloody annoys me when there is a minimum of 3 minutes to be added on and the ref blows up after 2m 30s.


We were the better side.  But I guess they were the better team in Istanbul.

Roll on next season.

rafa must go

critical folly - taking off mascherano who had kaka in his pocket, who goes on to make the goal because hes unmarked, shocker rafa shocker

Liverpool were awsome 1st half, but I still think crouch should have started.

Milan were there for the taking, ul..

im not serious rafa must go, but he made so many mistakes, milan were awful at the back, missed oppertunity

that's 2.30 on the tv. maybe the refs watch said 3.

unlucky Liverpool though. best team of the knock out stages won, dispite not being the best on the night. still a good showing from the reds

milan also got the easiest group ever

anderlecht
lille
aek athens

I think they'd have got through any of the groups on the balance of their performances

This is why Liverpool fans annoy everyone. What game were you watching?

The way he played Pennant was brilliant. God knows how many chances Liverpool had in the first half. Manchester United or Chelsea, or even maybe Arsenal, would have buried at least one of them.

Milan were awful at the back? What about Carragher gifting the ball to Kaka, which set up the goal? Or Agger giving Inzaghe enough room to move a tank into for the free kick?

You were doing so well until that bit in bold killed your point ;)

...and the substitution that adds another 30 seconds on (or have I got that wrong?).  It's a 'minimum' of 3 minutes, not 2 minutes and a bit.

But that wasn't responsible for the final result.  We had our chances, and should have won.  Crouch should have been on earlier, and apart from the mistakes we were the stronger team.  Football's all about scoring more goals than the opposition.  We couldn't do that, and we paid the price.

What are you on about?  I don't even think that he's a Liverpool fan!

Over the 90 minutes, Liverpool had the better of the play.  We couldn't finish, and we were punished for it.

But for all the talk of Milan being such class and that they were going to walk all over Liverpool with all their class - well that quite simply didn't happen. 

liverpool will be kicking themselves tonight.

The never troubled the keeper in the second half at all.

Surely they've got to go for it. The game seemed to fizzle out.

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We'd probably miss. 

You're quite right. We didn't trouble their keeper enough.  I was screaming for Crouch to be on earlier, and yes, I think it could have made a difference.

Never mind.  Roll on the summer and next season.

(But Gullit, please shut up about the Milan president being the best president ever.  The man is as corrupt as they come.  He deserves no recognition).

It's a funny ol' game. 2 years ago we played for 6 minutes out of 120 and won it. This time we were better for 60 and lost it.

In a strange way this year's run has done me prouder than 2005 as we've shown we can be better than the top teams rather than just beating them. Hardly anyone expected us to be able to cope with Milan, we did, comfortably at times as we did with Barcelona and Chelsea. I've no doubt that under Rafa there will be more European finals to come.

Crouch should have come on sooner for me but that aside Rafa got it right. We were unlucky last night, as they were in 2005. I guess that's us even.

I really should start betting.