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Title: 108
Post by: AgentChip109 on May 28, 2007, 12:46:28 AM
this hand doesnt involve me, but a friend of a friend who was sitting next to me at a £50, one rebuy, one add on tourny (£150 max).
getting to the later stages, about 22 left or so, blinds are 400/800. hes has about 15k and raises it to 2600 in cutoff with  Th 8h
SB calls and leaves himself about 11k behind.
flop 2h  3c 8s

SB checks, raiser bets 4k. SB then starts talking, things like "the question is, is ures bigger then mine". he decides to then push all in for 11k total

this guy i know took the longest ive ever seen to make his decision (at the time i didnt know his holding, put him on something around 77, and maybe the SB on 55, but this was just my take on things). but knowing he has top pair wiv a 10 kicker, do u call the all in.

he ended up folding, with the SB not revealing or giving much of a clue to his holding. wot sort of holding do u think he had? afterwards, the 108 guy was annoyed he didnt call and started to believe he had best hand


Title: Re: 108
Post by: Sheriff Fatman on May 28, 2007, 01:07:41 AM
He's committed almost half of his stack to the hand already (albeit he has the SB covered slightly so won't get knocked out if he loses the hand anyway).

Why would you make the bet on the flop if you weren't prepared to follow it up when re-raised (as is a distinct possibility).  He should have considered this before making the bet in the first place, not thought about it afterwards.

As it stands, he's committed himself to call IMO, but should have done all his 'what if' analysis prior to making the bet.


Title: Re: 108
Post by: M3boy on May 28, 2007, 02:37:54 AM
Spot on.

It is an all too common mistake,, betting an amount and NOT considering what to do if re raised. I have been guilty of this in the past.



Title: Re: 108
Post by: AlexMartin on May 28, 2007, 03:07:25 AM
A fold here is criminal.


Title: Re: 108
Post by: MANTIS01 on May 28, 2007, 02:01:45 PM
Yep, I agree with the rest of the guys.

Why would you take the trouble to raise with 10-8...hit and bet top pair...only to fold...to an amount equivalent to what you have already committed.

He has put a total of 6,600 in with his hand and is being asked to commit a further 7,000. He could well be ahead here but will certainly have cards to hit if not. If you are not going to call then folding pre-flop and saving yourself the effort is far better.


Title: Re: 108
Post by: Horneris on May 28, 2007, 07:36:55 PM
Very Easy Call


Title: Re: 108
Post by: Royal Flush on May 28, 2007, 07:40:50 PM
A fold here is criminal.

 ;iagree;


Title: Re: 108
Post by: portfolio on May 28, 2007, 09:16:59 PM
instapush


Title: Re: 108
Post by: UpTheMariners on May 28, 2007, 09:20:43 PM
if he doesnt want put all his chips in here maybe he should rethink when raising with 10 8 soooted.


Title: Re: 108
Post by: AgentChip109 on May 28, 2007, 11:26:25 PM
yo i agree. i was very suprised when he later told me wot he had and didnt call. i really think he had the guy beat. he said he was sure the guy had around 99-JJ but i felt was lower then that 55-77. oh well